Xantrex Or. Magnum

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Xantrex Or. Magnum

April 23, 2022, 01:39:14 pm

Apparently there are no Magnum MS2812 inverters available nationwide. I've tried many suppliers and all stated that they were out of stock and didn't know when they would have any available.

So, Xantrex are available and that would be my second choice. Just looking for a simple swap that has the remote control capability and using the existing comm cable. 2000w or 3000w, either would run the microwave better than the current Freedom 2500w OEM.

I would appreciate any info or good and bad experiences with the Xantrex inverter. How difficult is the swap out? Does it use the same bracket?
I don't need the Bluetooth option, would prefer simple, rugged and dependable operation like the Heart 2500 that I have now. It is starting to have intermittent issues and I'll definitely go with a pure sine wave.

Thanks

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Reply #1 – April 23, 2022, 02:13:45 pm

I have the Xantrex SW 3012 and love it. Charges at 150 amp. max. runs the microwave and toaster at the same time. Bought it in 2015.

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Reply #2 – April 23, 2022, 02:22:27 pm

Or consider a Victron. Better performance, much better warranty. Less money, more efficient, less idle power consumption. You should be able to use the same 12 and 120v wiring.

VICTRON ENERGY MULTIPLUS 12/3000/120-50 INVERTER WITH CHARGER - 120V $1,388.05
Victron Energy MultiPlus 12/3000/120-50 Inverter with Charger - 120V (

Remote control Victron Energy Digital Multi Control 200/200A GX for MultiPlus and Qua

The comparable Magnum is $1740 with less than 1/2 of the warranty.

Look at AIMS 12V 3000W Pure Sine Wave Inverter with 100A Charger (Model PICOGL
Not as efficient as a Victron and way more idle power consumption.

You can also get these at Bay Marine Supply in San Diego. Use ffmember as a discount code to get a discount. Shippis inexpensive. Victron Energy MultiPlus 3000VA Pure Sine Inverter/Charger

Comparable
Xantrex Inverter chargers look like they are $1600-1800. I helped install one of these in a 97 and we hade to rebuild the ceiling mounted cage. The new ones are bigger.

Any of these mounted to the ceiling need to be right side up, not upside down, and attach to steel framing.

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Reply #3 – April 24, 2022, 10:08:10 am

Justin:
Last January while in the Texas Rio Grande Valley our original ProSine 2.0 failed. It had the 12-volt 3/0 conductors on one side of the ProSine and the 120-volt circuits on the other. I was concerned that the large 12-volt conductors would not be long enough to fit the Magnum or Victron inverters. Magnums were back ordered then. The only local service center willing to replace the inverter carried Xantrex. So, I let them do the work. As it turned out, Foretravel left enough 12-volt conductor to reach the new inverter. But, the much easier-to-deal with 120-volt lines needed to be extended. A month later the new Xantrex lost communication with the remote Bluetooth monitor. After troubleshooting the problem with two Xantrex techs, they sent me a new Xantrex Freedom XC Pro 2000. It has been working fine since then. However, it does not switch fast enough from shore to battery power. It has two settings, 20 and 30 ms. I choose the 20 ms setting which they call UPS. The microwave clock needs to be reset when we disconnect from shore power. Given other options, I am not sure I'd go with Xantrex.
Bob

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Reply #4 – April 24, 2022, 06:12:46 pm

I wouldn't compare your Xantrex to the much better SW 3012 Which is competitive to the Magnum and Victron. Ford vs. Chevy on opinions.

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Reply #5 – April 25, 2022, 12:04:53 pm

Either the Victron Multiplus or the new Victron Multiplus II can be mounted on the bay ceiling in a frame hanging from the ceiling of the bay with the front face of the inverter up. Allow cooling clearance. The Multiplus II is thinner and longer, maybe a good choice for a mounting in a ceiling frame if clearance is an issue.

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Reply #6 – April 25, 2022, 12:43:20 pm

I'll echo Roger's suggestion for the Victron lineup. They make a great product and their app makes troubleshooting and diagnostics really easy

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Reply #7 – April 25, 2022, 03:15:55 pm

This seems to be a semi appropriate thread to jump into to seek some advise.

When I purchased my bus from and estate a neighbor claimed an electrical problem. I never could conclude what that problem was but I do not believe my inverter has ever worked. (could be operator error) The proSine panel and the power line monitor have never worked. I get some faint green on the power line.

This winter I had a problem when I ran the aqua hot, it would drain my battery even when plugged in.

Assuming this inverter is to small and I need to understand and rework most of this system so that I can add solar, is there anyone here willing to lend a hand?

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Reply #8 – April 25, 2022, 03:17:39 pm

Pictures

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Reply #9 – April 25, 2022, 03:37:25 pm

That is not an inverter OR inverter/charger.

That is an 80 amp converter. Not too bad if the charge wizard is added to take it from "stupid" to "smart".

Is it even connected??

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Reply #10 – April 25, 2022, 11:05:39 pm

I have a charge wizard for that.
Very low time. 20 shipped

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Reply #11 – April 26, 2022, 05:48:59 am

Quote from: wolfe10 – April 25, 2022, 03:37:25 pm

That is not an inverter OR inverter/charger.

That is an 80 amp converter. Not too bad if the charge wizard is added to take it from "stupid" to "smart".

Is it even connected??

Thank you Brett,

I do not know and I am not entirely convinced I know how to check it. Now I am even more confused as to why someone would have made that change. Time to dig in and get a better understanding!!

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Reply #12 – April 26, 2022, 08:25:45 am

First is to verify that converter is even hooked up.

After that, search carefully for an inverter/charger. That converter MAY be a replacement or may be in addition to the OE setup.

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Reply #13 – April 26, 2022, 09:23:33 am

Quote from: Farrarkc – April 26, 2022, 05:48:59 am

Brett: "Is it even connected??"
I do not know and I am not entirely convinced I know how to check it.

PD9180A - 80 Amp Electronic Power Converter - Progressive Dynamics

1. Unplug the converter power cord.
2. Remove the copious electrical tape (a sure sign of a PRO installation) from the converter output cable connections.
3. Assuming the duplex outlet is powered, keeping the output cables carefully separated, plug in the power plug (which features MORE electrical tape).
4. Using a multimeter, check for DC voltage between the black and red output cables. Should be 13-14 volts if working.
5. If the converter is working, trace the battery cables to see where they go (which battery bank).
6. Check voltage on the appropriate battery with converter turned "ON" and turned "OFF". Voltage should be higher when converter is "ON'.
7. If you want to keep the converter, use proper insulated electrical butt connectors to join the output cables and the battery cables.

Amazon.com

OR, if you don't want to unwrap all the old electrical tape on the output wires, you can probably check the converter output at the connection block.
Use the probes on the multimeter to touch the cable retaining screws (see photo).

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Reply #14 – April 26, 2022, 01:06:17 pm

Justin. Did you look into the Magnum 3012 ? That model will automatically supplement shore power via the inverter if your on something less than 50 amps. That's over simplifying it some but sounds good on paper.

The only time that I've needed the feature was at my sons house. 15amp service.

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Reply #15 – April 26, 2022, 01:14:34 pm

Quote from: Bob & Sue – April 26, 2022, 01:06:17 pm

Justin. Did you look into the Magnum 3012 ? That model will automatically supplement shore power via the inverter if your on something less than 50 amps. That's over simplifying it some but sounds good on paper.

The only time that I've needed the feature was at my sons house. 15amp service.

We moochdock a lot and have found that feature invaluable.

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Reply #16 – April 26, 2022, 03:26:21 pm

Quote from: Bob & Sue – April 26, 2022, 01:06:17 pm

Justin. Did you look into the Magnum 3012 ? That model will automatically supplement shore power via the inverter if your on something less than 50 amps. That's over simplifying it some but sounds good on paper.

The only time that I've needed the feature was at my sons house. 15amp service.

I considered it but probably would never need it. The main problem is that none of the Magnums that I could use are available. They are currently out of components to build them according to their representative. He expected it to be 16 to 20 weeks before the inverters will be available.

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Reply #17 – April 26, 2022, 10:25:47 pm

Bought an '08 last year with the original Xantrex RS 3000. 14 years old and still running strong. I plan to replace it with the Xantrex SW3012. This will be a plug and play swap that and the reliability of the one that's in there now made my decision. But I think you can't go wrong with any of the aforementioned brands. My first MH so my opinion and $10 will get you a Starbucks at the airport. 😊

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Reply #18 – April 27, 2022, 12:16:22 pm

Quote from: FourTravelers – April 26, 2022, 03:26:21 pm

I considered it but probably would never need it. The main problem is that none of the Magnums that I could use are available. They are currently out of components to build them according to their representative. He expected it to be 16 to 20 weeks before the inverters will be available.

Business wise that's got to be tough. How to stay in business if you've got no parts to build and sell.

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Reply #19 – April 27, 2022, 08:41:27 pm

Quote from: Bob & Sue – April 27, 2022, 12:16:22 pm

Business wise that's got to be tough. How to stay in business if you've got no parts to build and sell.

Agree Bob, It wouldn't surprise me if the company doesn't survive this. The dealers for the Magnum inverters that I spoke with said they have been out of these inverters for months and it could be a few more months before they would have any..........if then.

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