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Magic Chef 10.1 Residential Fridge Install

This is my experience on installing a Magic Chef 10.1 residential refrigerator in my 36' 1998 U270. I capped the propane line with a ½ inch male flair plug, unplugged the 110 connection at back of fridge, and disconnected the 12 volt to the control board in the back. I got distracted and did not tape off the 12V + lead and managed to short to ground, which in turn tripped a 30A 12V breaker located in the driver's side bay large storage area. I found two hex head screws holding the fridge to the floor at the back and about four to six Phillips head screws around the frame at the front. My fridge sits above the propane furnace at about 14 inches, got a two wheel dolly that had a removable handle and a set of smaller casters that could be placed below the fridge. It was about 13 inches high with a piece of ¾ plywood sitting on top. Removed both doors from the fridge, front control panel, all shelves and plastic organizers and then wiggled it out onto the dolly. I then laid it down on a pad and removed rest of door hinge brackets, turned it face down and removed the ammonia cooling system as if I were replacing it with another. These efforts reduced the weight to less than half.

Preparation of coach for removal and installation: removed inside oak grab handle at right of door; removed screen door; lifted up dash cover and middle dash cover with worthless drink holders and propped them open; moved passenger chair back as far as it would go, and then turned it at an angle toward the driver's chair. Carried doors and interior items of fridge from coach, removed the cooling unit, and then removed the empty box.

The Magic Chef 10.1 clearly states in the operation manual in bold print: not for use in an RV and not to be operated with an inverter. It also does not recommend placing in a "built in" cabinet or operating outside of a conditioned space. I bought a 1500 watt pure sine inverter from Windy Nation with a 3,000 watt surge capacity (store brand). It is installed next to the main battery buss in the driver's side large storage cabinet. The inverter is connected to the battery buss with 2 gauge welding/battery cables and a 150 AMP fuse all supplied with the inverter.
I then ran a 12 ga extension cord from the inverter, up into the kitchen cabinets and followed the path of my solar wires to the back of the fridge. The extension cord already had a replacement female socket, so I removed it to make it easier to thread it back up behind the cabinets and to the fridge, cut the cord to length and reattached the plug. I am powering the inverter from a 600 A lithium battery pack supported by 900 W solar. I did some research and one recommendation from an electrical engineer is to size your inverter at 5x the annual electrical consumption of the appliance. The sticker said 297KW per year, so 1500 seemed adequate.  This will hopefully make the dire warning not to operate the fridge from an inverter a moot point.

Air flow: Foretravel installed multiple layers of Styrofoam insulation board in my cabinet to make a snug fit on the sides of the original Norcold. I removed one layer of insulation from both sides which gave me an air gap at both sides, fortunately the gap on the left side of the fridge is twice the size and that's where the coils run in this fridge. I also have air gaps at the top and bottom of the fridge, but the cabinet framing around the left and right side of the fridge is tight to the fridge which actually helps hold it in place. The original roof and side wall vents have been closed off. The fridge now gets its airflow from the interior of the coach. I can feel some convection at the top where the air is warmer. I've placed a remote thermometer at the back of the fridge to monitor the temperature and will add a circulation fan if needed.

Mounting: Bottom front, two 1/8" by 1" by 3" metal straps are attached to the bottom cabinet frame and into the bottom hinge bolts of the fridge. Top front: Two 1.5 x 1.5 x 3" aluminum angle pieces were attached to the top of the fridge with VHB tape and then screwed into the top cabinet frame. Back bottom: two similar aluminum angle pieces were screwed into the bottom lip of the fridge and attached to the fiberglass covered floor of the fridge compartment with VHB tape. I've already traveled some Arkansas and Oklahoma hairpin turn roads with no problems. It seems very secure.

Securing doors while driving: An Okie Engineering project in test mode consists of custom made ¼ inch bungee cords affixed to a padlock hasp (the none hinge portion) that was attached with VHB tape. I'm using clear Command hooks in unobtrusive places on the visible side of the cabinet. It's working so far, very easy to use and hangs out of sight (nearly) at left side of fridge.

Power consumption: Bought a Harbor Freight watt meter and it indicates 65W running and after 10 days I'm average 31 watts per hour in 60 to 100 F temperatures.

I stripped the new fridge to bare bones to bring it into the coach – no doors, shelves, hinges, bins, etc. Fit through the door and then set it on the four-wheel dolly used to remove old fridge. Had help lifting the fridge into the coach but inserted it into the cabinet by myself. Install all shelves before you attach the doors, or you get to install them twice. Pain in the rear.

Color choices: Purchased at Home Depot and they offer it in stainless, black and white. We would probably save the money and buy black because the stainless shows more fingerprints, but what's done is done. Very happy with a frost-free fridge that required no cabinet work in our coach and has two more cubit feet of storage capacity in the same footprint as the old Norcold. Appreciate all the responses and advice offered in my previous post about replacement.

DISCLAIMER: I'm not a trained RV tech, engineer, or product specialist. This is a description of what I did, follow it at your own risk and peril. These fridges nearly outweigh me, so I did everything I could imagine to reduce the physical requirements. Suggest you get a good strong, younger, fit friend or two to help.

1998 36 foot U270 Build No. 5328 WTFE, 900 watts solar, Victron controller, B2B, bat monitor, 600 AMPH lithium with 2018 Chevy Colorado toad, SKP #110239, Motorcade #17781, 2021 Escape 17B for when Coach is broken down and campsites are too small, retired and full-timer since Dec. 2020. Part of RV family since 1963.

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Reply #1
Nice job.  You will love it.

jk
Jack and Cathy
1992 U280 Unihome 36' Build #4034
Cummins 8.3 /  Allison MT647/ PacBrake
Apopka, FL / Barre Center, NY

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Reply #2
One of the best things to do, enjoy. Pick up Braum's on your way in :-)
Former 2003 GV U295 (6230) (2015 - 2025)
Former 94 GV U225 (2013-2016)

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Patrick,

Great write up.  Thanks for sharing.  I know my day is coming (probably soon) with my 23 year old Dometic.  I will probably go a similar route as what you did. 

Richard
Jan & Richard Witt
1999 U-320  36ft WTFE
Build Number: 5478 Motorcade: 16599
2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited w/Air Force One
Jan: NO5U, Richard:KA5RIW
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Great write up.  Saw these on a FB writeup for door latches. Might work too?

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Reply #6
Ditto on the one Jeff used.  Works great and easy to adapt to the Magic Chef.

jk
Jack and Cathy
1992 U280 Unihome 36' Build #4034
Cummins 8.3 /  Allison MT647/ PacBrake
Apopka, FL / Barre Center, NY

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Reply #7
Love my little resi .
  I opted for bottom freezer.

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Reply #8
Nice installation. We've been very happy with our Samsung residential for the past four years and I think you'll be very happy with this one!
David and Carolyn Osborn
1995 U320C SE 40' Build 4726 Feb 1995
FMCA 147762
Motorcade 17186

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I'm going to order this and try installing. Did you have to modify it in any way? Thanks. My doors don't stick out from the cabinet, so locks that attach on the side walls of the fridge do not work for me.

Note: Just did a search to buy and it's not currently available until mid August.
1998 36 foot U270 Build No. 5328 WTFE, 900 watts solar, Victron controller, B2B, bat monitor, 600 AMPH lithium with 2018 Chevy Colorado toad, SKP #110239, Motorcade #17781, 2021 Escape 17B for when Coach is broken down and campsites are too small, retired and full-timer since Dec. 2020. Part of RV family since 1963.

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Reply #10
I made one of those latches out of stainless steel and it works great.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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I'm thinking of replacing ours with a Frigidaire FFHT 1425. Dimensions are very close to existing Dometic.
Before I order it, I want to be certain I can get it into the coach. I have read that I should remove the grab handle and maybe the screen door.
The dimension are 27 5/8 w
29 3/8 d
59 7/8 h
They say depth is 25 1/4 d without the door
I am considering making up a mock box with those dimensions, to test if it will clear.
Am I dreaming, or what would be a better idea? Let me know what you think.
Glenn and Amy Beinfest
2001 36' U320
#5812
2014 Honda CRV

No Whining on the YACHT

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I'm thinking of replacing ours with a Frigidaire FFHT 1425. Dimensions are very close to existing Dometic.

Do you not have the height for a Samsung RF18? We've been very pleased with ours—if you can create the required height.
David and Carolyn Osborn
1995 U320C SE 40' Build 4726 Feb 1995
FMCA 147762
Motorcade 17186

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Amy doesn't want to lose the drawer under the fridge
The one we are looking at is 13.9 cf
Perfect size IF I can get it into the coach
Glenn and Amy Beinfest
2001 36' U320
#5812
2014 Honda CRV

No Whining on the YACHT

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Reply #14
Some are the bigger fridges are installed by removing a window and getting them in that way.

Rich
Rich and Peggy Bowman
2002 U270 3610 WTFS, build #5939--"Freedom"
2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit 4xe
SMI AirForceOne brake system
PakCanoe 15

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I had asked about repairing a leak, in a previous thread. The response said not to use sealant, but to use a gasket. Where would I purchase this, and what is it called ?
If I do have to remove a window, might as well be that one
Thanks
Glenn and Amy Beinfest
2001 36' U320
#5812
2014 Honda CRV

No Whining on the YACHT

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Glenn, Automotive "D" seal is the way Xtreme Paint & Graphics seals every window they remove and then re-install following a full paint job.  Excellent seal and does not attract dirt.  Purchase at auto supply stores
Rudy Legett
2003 U320 4010 ISM 450 hp
2001 U320 4220 ISM 450 hp
1995 U320 M11 400 hp
1990 Granvilla 300 hp 3208T
Aqua Hot Service Houston and Southeast Texas

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I had no problem getting the 13 cubit foot Frigidaire in the front door.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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I'm going to order this and try installing. Did you have to modify it in any way? Thanks. My doors don't stick out from the cabinet, so locks that attach on the side walls of the fridge do not work for me.

Note: Just did a search to buy and it's not currently available until mid August.

My door hinge is on the right.  I was able to mount the latch using one of the predrilled holes for a left sided hinge.  Easy peasy.

jk
Jack and Cathy
1992 U280 Unihome 36' Build #4034
Cummins 8.3 /  Allison MT647/ PacBrake
Apopka, FL / Barre Center, NY

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I have ordered the fridge, and have removed the doors and all internals to lighten the weight.
Are there any tricks to removing the existing fridge?
Also, how do I "cap off" the gas line. It is flared and looks to be 3/4"???
We had the fridge cooling redone a couple of years ago. The work was done by his 15 year old son. I wasn't there to watch, but they had to pull it out to rebuild it.
Waiting for someone to help me take it out.
Glenn and Amy Beinfest
2001 36' U320
#5812
2014 Honda CRV

No Whining on the YACHT

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Glenn I capped the gas line near the tank. Taking the old fridge out was heavy. If my son
wasn't taking it for a cabin I would have taken a lot more of the trim around the door off.
Took the screen door off and the grab handle.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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There are two lines coming out of the tank, one high, one low. Both exit the compartment through a hole in the back.
How can I tell which goes to fridge and which to stove.?
I can attach a picture, if that would help.
Glenn and Amy Beinfest
2001 36' U320
#5812
2014 Honda CRV

No Whining on the YACHT

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There are two lines coming out of the tank, one high, one low. Both exit the compartment through a hole in the back.
How can I tell which goes to fridge and which to stove.?
I can attach a picture, if that would help.
Shut propane at the tank completely. Cap the gas line behind the fridge. Turn propane back on and test your cap to make sure there is no leak.
Former 2003 GV U295 (6230) (2015 - 2025)
Former 94 GV U225 (2013-2016)

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Reply #23
Great installation and writeup.  I love my residential fridge.  It's been working great in my rig and running off the inverter when off power.
You can call me Hunter.  It's my name.
1994 U240 36'
Cat 3116, 6-Speed
CR-V TOAD

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Reply #24
All my coaches since '94 have had residential refrigerators. Lynda would not let me have a coach without one.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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