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Ghost power ?

To set the scene.
The positive and negative battery cables are disconnected and I'm not plugged into shore power, what's the problem ?
The big chrome fans on the windshield will switch on as will the dash radio, that's all I tried but it's more than enough to confuse me.
88 Grand Villa 36' ORED 3208 (throwaway)Cat.
 Build # 3150
Happiness is the maximum agreement of reality and desire.

Re: Ghost power ?

Reply #1
They are powered by the start batteries.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #2
Apparently not, as both batteries are disconnected
That's what's puzzling me, where's the power coming from ?
88 Grand Villa 36' ORED 3208 (throwaway)Cat.
 Build # 3150
Happiness is the maximum agreement of reality and desire.

Re: Ghost power ?

Reply #3
Any solar on top?
John Hobbs
1995 U300 SE
M11 / Retarder
Private toilet
1 of 1
Wichita, Ks

Re: Ghost power ?

Reply #4
House and chassis batteries are disconnected?  Or just the chassis batteries?
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

Re: Ghost power ?

Reply #5
I go with John you must have solar.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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Reply #6
I go with John you must have solar.
I don't think Olde English has solar, unless it is a very recent addition to his coach.  See Reply #10 linked below:

Recommendations for Inverter for older coaches [split from Transfer switch(es...

1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

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Reply #7
Everything is unplugged and disconnected, i don't have solar. Bit of a puzzle ?
88 Grand Villa 36' ORED 3208 (throwaway)Cat.
 Build # 3150
Happiness is the maximum agreement of reality and desire.

Re: Ghost power ?

Reply #8
Does your generator have a separate battery? My '81 does.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Ghost power ?

Reply #9
Everything is unplugged and disconnected, i don't have solar. Bit of a puzzle ?

If all of your house and all of your chassis batteries are disconnected and everything is unplugged, then those items are not going to work. You must have another battery you have not disconnected yet.
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

Re: Ghost power ?

Reply #10
Everything is unplugged and disconnected, i don't have solar. Bit of a puzzle ?
Yup.  Test light or volt meter in hand you need to find the source of the electrons.  My guess is that you haven't truly disconnected the house and chassis batteries yet.  Just as in a proof, the statement "it's obvious" usually ain't, If you look at a junction and say "it doesn't" or "it can't": unhook the cables.
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
Charlie, the Dog was broken out of jail 24 Oct 2023
N1RPN
AA1OH (H)e who must be obeyed.

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Reply #11
Put a voltmeter on the battery cable ends after they are removed from battery and see if they are still powered from another source.

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Reply #12
The assumption that we are all making is that you have disconnected the positive and negative cables from both the chassis and house battery bank positive and negative posts, and you still have DC power to the coach. Only three possibilities here. First possibility is you thought you disconnected the primary cables from the batteries but did not😟 or second you have a battery bank that you have been completely unaware of since you have owned the coach🤔or thirdly you have a flux capacitor.😀

Roland
1993 U280 4341
2010 Jeep Liberty
The Pied Pipers

Re: Ghost power ?

Reply #13
Inquiring minds want to know Have you found the source of your "ghost" power?
If you have don't keep us in suspense.

Roland
1993 U280 4341
2010 Jeep Liberty
The Pied Pipers


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Reply #15
Just a thought.

More than one house battery and engine battery.

My coach has three start batteries and the house batteries connected in parallel. Disconnect one battery cable others still powering the coach. You have to either disconnect all the positive leads. On all batteries or trace the leads and disconnect the lead going to the coach from the battery.

I know of at least one coach where one battery is in another location behind a panel.

Careful you might have hot cables floating around. Short one and many sparks and possibility fire or damage.
2006 Nimbus 336
Built 2005 may be one of the first coaches labeled Nimbus.
DEMCO Air-force One braking system.
Towing 2002 Jeep Wrangler Sport.
Road Master Falcon 5250 tow bar.

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Reply #16
Read reply 14 again,NOT AVAILIBLE FOR PURCHASE.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

Re: Ghost power ?

Reply #17
I heard they are just on temporal back order.  As soon as they get the AQM (Applied Quantum Mechanics) time dilator machine fixed, they'll have them back in stock.
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: Ghost power ?

Reply #18
I heard they are just on temporal back order.  As soon as they get the AQM (Applied Quantum Mechanics) time dilator machine fixed, they'll have them back in stock.
Yes but Plutonium is required to properly operate the flux capacitor. I may know a guy in  Tonopah that may still have some?

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Reply #19
What was the resolution to your issue. No one likes a dangling participle.

Roland
1993 U280 4341
2010 Jeep Liberty
The Pied Pipers

Re: Ghost power ?

Reply #20
What was the resolution to your issue. No one likes a dangling participle.

Roland
Yes! I hate it when no update is given to any issue.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

Re: Ghost power ?

Reply #21
I'm still chasing a dead short somewhere and as there's a whole lot of wires it may take a while.
88 Grand Villa 36' ORED 3208 (throwaway)Cat.
 Build # 3150
Happiness is the maximum agreement of reality and desire.

Re: Ghost power ?

Reply #22
I'm still chasing a dead short somewhere and as there's a whole lot of wires it may take a while.
Sure it's a short. As with a short you would lose power very quickly via a blown fuse. And if it's an unfused circuit, You would then have a light bulb element and you would smell smoke or have a fire.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

Re: Ghost power ?

Reply #23
Had to walk away for a while so I've been lifting some sprinkler heads in the front yard.
88 Grand Villa 36' ORED 3208 (throwaway)Cat.
 Build # 3150
Happiness is the maximum agreement of reality and desire.

Re: Ghost power ?

Reply #24
Had to walk away for a while so I've been lifting some sprinkler heads in the front yard.
I think that would be my approach as well.  Sometimes with a puzzling, frustrating problem it is best to leave it and come back at a later date to have a fresh start on it. 

Richard
Jan & Richard Witt
1999 U-320  36ft WTFE
Build Number: 5478 Motorcade: 16599
2011 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited w/Air Force One
Jan: NO5U, Richard:KA5RIW
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