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Plugging in to Shore Line, is that generator still loaded?

After a long/hot day on the road, I roll in to camp with the generator still running both roof airs and then plug in the shore power.
I know that shutting down a loaded generator is a big No No. It seems like the shore power picks up the slack as soon as power is supplied. 
I do know, that in the reverse (breaking camp) scenario, the generator takes on the load after 90 seconds of starting after which the cord can be pulled. 
Q: With a running generator, What happens behind the scenes when I turn on the power at the pedestal?
Q: What then happens two minutes later when I then go to shut off the generator?
Bob and Pam Brumbaugh
Ernie (English Bulldog)
2000 U320 WTFE 40' Build # 5740 (former)
Xtreme "Lights and Paintjob"
Motorcade# 18659
Souderton, PA
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Re: Plugging in to Shore Line. What happens to running generator?

Reply #1
The generator controls the transfer switch.  As long as the generator is running, the generator has assumed the load.  If you want to cool down the generator before shutting it down, you need to lighten the load by shutting stuff off.

Art
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
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Re: Plugging in to Shore Line, is that generator still loaded?

Reply #2
Bob,  You will arc the transfer switch each time you change power sources with big loads, A/Cs, running.  The transfer switch will say I quit much sooner than later.

Turn big loads off, change power source, restart big loads every time, all the time.

Hope this helps you
Rudy Legett
2003 U320 4010 ISM 450 hp
2001 U320 4220 ISM 450 hp
1995 U320 M11 400 hp
1990 Granvilla 300 hp 3208T
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Re: Plugging in to Shore Line, is that generator still loaded?

Reply #3
Agree with Rudy, regularly pulling in a contactor under load will erode the contacts due to arcing as the contacts approach each other.  I understand that some coaches transfer switches are set up for shore priority and some are generator priority.  Mine is shore priority.
George Mann
2002 U320 #5934
2017 Rubicon
2013 BMW GS
Waterford MI

Re: Plugging in to Shore Line, is that generator still loaded?

Reply #4
I always try to shut off the loads before switching power sources. It just seems to be the best practice to extend the life of the switch contacts.
David and Carolyn Osborn
1995 U320C SE 40' Build 4726 Feb 1995
FMCA 147762
Motorcade 17186

Re: Plugging in to Shore Line, is that generator still loaded?

Reply #5
Rudy X2 I learned this lesson the hard way on our previous coach burnt up the transfer switch
Chris
1999 U 320 DGFE
Build Number 5523
Chris & Elka Lang
In the field, Lonoke AR

Re: Plugging in to Shore Line, is that generator still loaded?

Reply #6
George is correct

"some coaches transfer switches are set up for shore priority and some are generator priority."

We do not know how your transfer switch is wired up.  Based on your comment that when you plugged in it looked like the shore power took the load, you are shore priority.  Based on that if you are plugged in, with AC's running, you start the generator, generator is going to be under a good load as soon as you unplug or shut the shore power breakers off.
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Re: Plugging in to Shore Line, is that generator still loaded?

Reply #7
I'm glad that my is shore power priority as when I'm working on the generator I forget to shut
off shore power and this way the transfer switch doesn't activate and if I want to load up the
generator I unload the system and then disconnect the shore power.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: Plugging in to Shore Line, is that generator still loaded?

Reply #8
All good advice here and much appreciated. I am glad I asked before it became a problem. 👍
Bob and Pam Brumbaugh
Ernie (English Bulldog)
2000 U320 WTFE 40' Build # 5740 (former)
Xtreme "Lights and Paintjob"
Motorcade# 18659
Souderton, PA
Towd: 2021 Ford Ranger
Quickee Mini Golf Cart (former)

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