Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

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Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

June 19, 2023, 11:29:20 am

Greetings all!
After a long and unwanted absence due to illness I'm back and wanting to get on the road.
Sadly during state inspection torsion bushings relating to the rear axle torsion bar went bad.
Does any body have a line on replacements?
TIA.

Moby

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Re: Parts needed

Reply #1 – June 19, 2023, 11:39:53 am

Moby,

Do you have a picture so we know exactly what part(s)you need?

If not, PM me your e-mail and I can send you the B.F. Goodrich Torsilastic manual where you can identify the part you need.

Re: Parts needed

Reply #2 – June 20, 2023, 05:46:29 pm

If you are unable to find the correct parts you might try asking around the 18 wheeler repair shops and see if they can manufacture the parts. I had front sway bar problems and when I contacted the factory in Texas they demanded part numbers which I could not provide. I was lucky enough to find a great 18 wheeler pair shop who also had the same problem acquiring the parts so they just manufactured them, themselves. Best of luck to you.

Re: Parts needed

Reply #3 – June 20, 2023, 06:59:50 pm

If this IS B.F. Goodrich Torsilastic parts, there are on crosses to trucks.

Will be on the road the next week, but will continue to check in as I can.

Yes, I am very familiar with the suspension and worked with the engineers at B.F. Goodrich on some upgrades.

PM me if you like.

Re: Parts needed

Reply #4 – June 23, 2023, 01:17:01 pm

Sorry for the lack of response.
I have exchange people coming soon for two weeks and have been getting ready.
Pics as soon as i can crawl under her.

Re: Parts needed

Reply #5 – June 23, 2023, 01:25:56 pm

Ebay used to have the whole spring,look under Foretravel.

Re: Parts needed

Reply #6 – June 23, 2023, 02:12:09 pm

Quote from: John44 – June 23, 2023, 01:25:56 pm

Ebay used to have the whole spring,look under Foretravel.

Just to be sure, I'm talking torsion bar here.

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #7 – June 23, 2023, 04:18:53 pm

If they are the round bushings I have about 8 of them left over from our 225.post a pic.
Johnh

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #8 – June 23, 2023, 05:51:21 pm

Quote from: Moby – June 23, 2023, 02:12:09 pm

Just to be sure, I'm talking torsion bar here.

Like these?
Scroll to the bottom of the page for the rubber mounted shackles.

Sulastic Rubber Springs. ONE TORSILASTIC SPRING 4" x 4" X 36 3/4"

John Haygarth seems to be offering you the bushings for the locating arms and maybe the Panhard rod. Those are truck parts.

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #9 – June 25, 2023, 11:00:32 am

I am not aware of any "bushings" in the torsilastic suspension itself. Sway bars, yes.

Very unusual for the metal center piece of the torsilastic beam to "wear" the rubber between it and the outer box/shell. Common for both outer ends of the exposed rubber to look gnarly, but the rubber goes the full length of the torsilastic beam.

The shackles are much more likely to wear. And, can be replaced without major issue (have done it with hand tools and bottle jack).

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #10 – June 25, 2023, 11:23:18 am

Yes these are for sway bars. Not sure if a 225 had torselastic as ours were springs and hydraulic brakes.
Brett is this correct?
Johnh

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #11 – June 25, 2023, 11:36:29 am

To my knowledge, all U225's were torsilastic and air brakes. Same for U240.

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #12 – June 25, 2023, 01:36:40 pm

Quote from: wolfe10 – June 25, 2023, 11:36:29 am

To my knowledge, all U225's were torsilastic and air brakes. Same for U240.

But the Torsilatic suspension does have a rear sway bar. I thought there were also radius rods of a sort and a panhard rod but it looks like the torsion bars and shackles do all the heavy lifting.

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #13 – June 25, 2023, 04:14:19 pm

Probably better to hold off speculating on exactly what part the OP needs until we know what it is and better, a picture showing the damage/degradation.

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #14 – June 25, 2023, 04:55:24 pm

Quote from: wolfe10 – June 25, 2023, 04:14:19 pm

Probably better to hold off speculating on exactly what part the OP needs until we know what it is and better, a picture showing the damage/degradation.

I'm betting on the inspector not knowing what he's looking at and the OP not prepared to ask "Show me the movement." I'm down to my last shim, and the ends of the torsion bar rubber look gnarly but ride height is correct and nothing moves the way it shouldn't. It sure is a brutally simple system though.

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #15 – June 25, 2023, 08:11:36 pm

The bushings I have are for that torsion bar as mine was the same. But springs not torselastic.
Thinking back mine was Oskosh 022
Johnh

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #16 – June 26, 2023, 08:38:42 am

Quote from: John Haygarth – June 23, 2023, 04:18:53 pm

If they are the round bushings I have about 8 of them left over from our 225.post a pic.
Johnh

John,
The picture old tool maker posted looks like my setup.
Been busy with overseas guests and rain makes it difficult (unpleasant) to crawl under Alice for pictures.
I'll get the tarp out this morning and do it.

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #17 – June 26, 2023, 08:49:52 am

If his picture is what you are talking about that is a sway bar,not a torsion bar,if your going to post a picture of the same thing
why bother,I would remove those rubber pieces and look for a part number and/or brand name,if it is a Lord brand they usually
have the part number somewhere,if not take the old parts to a store and try and match up.If you mean the bushings that hold the bar in place,do the same,a common swaybar brand is
Hellwig,try searching that way,they catagorize them by the bar diameter.

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #18 – June 26, 2023, 10:39:57 am

Again, sorry for the picture delay.
Heres the three pics I have.
One shows the general layout and two show the bushings in question.
You can very clearly see a gap between the top bushings and the bar below. Somehow, I don't think a gap is supposed to be there.
Hoping this clears things up.

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #19 – June 26, 2023, 11:23:21 am

This was the same as our older FT. I am sure that the ones I have should be the ones you need. If you measure the diameter of the pin and post it I will check mine just to be sure then can mail them to you
John

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #20 – June 26, 2023, 12:05:23 pm

Quote from: John Haygarth – June 26, 2023, 11:23:21 am

This was the same as our older FT. I am sure that the ones I have should be the ones you need. If you measure the diameter of the pin and post it I will check mine just to be sure then can mail them to you
John

What part of the assembly are you calling the "pin"?

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #21 – June 26, 2023, 08:45:25 pm

Moby: I'll allow John to define pin. What I want to say is that what you sent us a picture of is the sway bar and yes, it's a torsion spring, sometimes referred to as a torsion bar. What lends itself to the confusion is our U225s and the 240s have Torsilatic suspension, which is a torsion style spring with rubber being the elastic component.

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #22 – June 26, 2023, 11:06:34 pm

The pin I refer to is what looks like a bolt as it has a nut on the end holding parts in place. I need the diameter of this too make sure the inside diameter of bushings fit it.
John

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #23 – June 26, 2023, 11:17:55 pm

Quote from: Old Toolmaker – June 26, 2023, 08:45:25 pm

What I want to say is that what you sent us a picture of is the sway bar and yes, it's a torsion spring, sometimes referred to as a torsion bar.

Got it.
Just using the terminology that the shop used not thinking of the confusion it would cause.
Sorry for the confusion.

John- sun is in the wrong part of the sky right now, will measure in the AM.

Lord, I want to be back on the road again.
I deserve it.
We all deserve it.

Re: Parts needed - torsion bushings for U225

Reply #24 – July 11, 2023, 04:46:46 pm

Ok 6 bushings on their way. I drove down thru the Border this am to mail them to you so expect them in 3 days. I did this as our mail would take a couple of weeks maybe and the cost was over $30 cndn but taking them into Washington state it was $7us. I filled up the L Rover with gas but it was only 3c less than ours a litre. Nice drive thru mountains and along the river except I had to sit for 20mins while they were paving hwy. Hotel for night was reasonable $150 so all good.
I have 6 more left if anyone needs them
John

Hotel was bs,,,,,we live 40mins north of border.

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