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Radiator leak, what would you do?

I've had one pinhole leak top left corner outside (right below the remote filler neck). Used JB Weld radiator on it, works great.  Over this weekend had a new one, it started somewhere between when I dumped the tanks and when I stopped at the dumpster on the way out.  Pinhole spraying out.  Once the thermostats opened, it stopped.  Checked this morning, only took a couple splashes of antifreeze to top it off.  I flushed and refilled with new a few months ago and replaced the cap and hoses.

Temp never goes above 180-185, even this weekend when it was in the 90s, towing 4000 pounds. However I always worry worry about it.

Here's my question:  Should I just find and JB weld this new leak?  Should I just Bars leak the whole thing?  Should I get it re-cored?  It's all been in the top left corner underneath the remote filler neck.  Is there something I should spray on the outside of it to help?  Should I just quit worrying so much?  Is it going to catastrophic blow apart on my next trip? I've seen some say on here they use Bars as a preventative almost, would you?
1992 Foretravel 36' Grand Villa ORED - VC22RD Chassis - 8.3 Cummins

Re: Radiator leak, what would you do?

Reply #1
Don't know the whole story, but here goes. If you recently flushed it and put in new antifreeze, and if it had bars leak in it, it has been flushed out. You might can put new bars leak in it and remedy your problem......just a thought.
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Lynn & Marilyn Sickel
Tollville, AR
1997  U320  40'
2021 Chevrolet Silverado pickup
Motorcader  17257

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Reply #2
Barr's leak, and if you can get to the pin hole fix it again. I wouldn't worry about the radiator if you can stop the leaky, as it is cooling fine.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

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Reply #3
Sounds like the metal is rusting from the inside out.  I think I would get it looked at since you now have had 2 leaks, more are waiting to show up shortly and it may not be small.

I don't think there is anything you can spray on the outside will hold if it is rusting from the inside.
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

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Reply #4
Short term JB weld outside, plus barrs leak inside.

Long term?
Dan - Full timing since 2009
2003 U320 40' Tag 2 slide

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Reply #5
Well, turns out it's the same leak I used the JB Weld on, not so good after all.
1992 Foretravel 36' Grand Villa ORED - VC22RD Chassis - 8.3 Cummins

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Reply #6
I had a new core put in mine the problem is getting the radiator out. I would not use any stop leak in the radiator that could cause you problems  down the road.
1991 40' Grand Villa 300 6V92
1930 Model A
1947 M5 Studebaker Truck
1948 Anglia

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Reply #7
Bar's leak has stopped the leaks in many of our coaches including mine. Foretravel recommends it and so did Cummins
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Reply #8
X2 on Barr's leak, have it in mine last 10+ years.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

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Reply #9
How many bottles of Barr"s Leak did you all add to the radiator, thanks
Rudy Legett
2003 U320 4010 ISM 450 hp
2001 U320 4220 ISM 450 hp
1995 U320 M11 400 hp
1990 Granvilla 300 hp 3208T
Aqua Hot Service Houston and Southeast Texas

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Reply #10
X3 on Barrs leak....... If I remember correctly, I used three.
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Lynn & Marilyn Sickel
Tollville, AR
1997  U320  40'
2021 Chevrolet Silverado pickup
Motorcader  17257

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Reply #11
I had a small leak at the bottom left (rear) of the radiator, didn't want to have to remove the radiator as it appeared to be quite the job. Purchased 5 bottles of Barr's to make a temporary fix but after opening a bottle and pouring it in a clear jar.  :o  I couldn't convince myself to put it in, knowing it will flow through the whole cooling system. Engine block, coolant filter, dash heater and water heater. So, I removed the radiator and carried it to a local, reputable radiator shop for a re-core. Expensive but I don't worry about the leak re-appearing while on the road. plenty of other things that can fail but I rest easier knowing that I'm not relying on a 25 year old radiator core.
Still have the bottles of Barr's
Justin & Cathy Byrd
1995 U280 "Old Faithful"
36' Build #4673
C8.3 Cummins
Allison MD3060R 6 speed - retarder
Powertech 10KW  4cyl Kubota

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Reply #12
Question about the Barrs leak.  What do you do about the coolant filter?  Does it trap the Bars?
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Chuck Pearson
1996 U295
2018 Can Am X3 TurboRS

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Reply #13
Question about the Barrs leak.  What do you do about the coolant filter?  Does it trap the Bars?
I have cut the water filter apart on my coach, and yes it does catch the some of the Barr's leak. It doesn't stop the filter up as there is no air in the filter. Also I think it would take a while for the filter to catch all of it. When I first install the Barr's leak I turn he filter off for a while.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

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Reply #14
When I bought the coach I read all of the info that came with it. Can't find it at the moment but there was an alert from Cummins to put Bar's leak in the system to solve some gasket issue they were having at the time.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #15
Thirty plus year old radiator. How much longer will it last. Remember also that radiator also cools the transmission. Radiator on my 93 Grand Villa failed internally a few years ago. Had to replace the transmission..I had no external leaks. I wouldn't panic but I think I'd start at least thinking about getting a permanent fix. Just my thoughts on the situation. My repair bill was in the 12K range. Just saying better safe than sorry.


Roland
1993 U280 4341
2010 Jeep Liberty
The Pied Pipers

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Reply #16
I've repaired radiator damage and leaks with cayenne pepper, JB Weld and Barr's Leak. All have worked well depending on the type of leak.

Our U300 radiator is 30 years old but doing fine. A couple of our cars are a lot older but I've never had to do anything much to the radiators unless damaged from the fan or rocks..

I've always looked with distrust at the coolant automatic transmission cooler that Roland had the problems with.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: Radiator leak, what would you do?

Reply #17
I had a small leak at the bottom left (rear) of the radiator, didn't want to have to remove the radiator as it appeared to be quite the job. Purchased 5 bottles of Barr's to make a temporary fix but after opening a bottle and pouring it in a clear jar.  :o  I couldn't convince myself to put it in, knowing it will flow through the whole cooling system. Engine block, coolant filter, dash heater and water heater. So, I removed the radiator and carried it to a local, reputable radiator shop for a re-core. Expensive but I don't worry about the leak re-appearing while on the road. plenty of other things that can fail but I rest easier knowing that I'm not relying on a 25 year old radiator core.
Still have the bottles of Barr's
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Hans & Marjet
1995 U300 "Ben" (#4719)
3176B Cat,4060HD,Jake
SKP#139131
Motorcade#17579
2006 Honda Element (towed)

Re: Radiator leak, what would you do?

Reply #18
Was able to solder it in place (no fun). Stopped the leak.

My understanding on the Bars is C16 is discontinued, use the tablets in place of it. Not to use the liquid.
1992 Foretravel 36' Grand Villa ORED - VC22RD Chassis - 8.3 Cummins

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Reply #19
Should I just quit worrying so much? 

Is it going to catastrophic blow apart on my next trip?

I've seen some say on here they use Bars as a preventative almost, would you?

Ummm NO but I call it "Close following."

No.  But if pinhole leaks have already formed eventually you will be using a lawn sprinkler to cool your engine.

Ewwwww.  I put some Bars Leak, the liquid and pellets kind in the radiator of my Siata.  But I keep in the back of my mind that radiator is due for a trip to the radiator shop.  FWIW THAT cooling system stopped leaking with two tablespoons each of liquid and pellets.

But for the relatively low cost of proper repair, do you really want to risk an expensive engine re-build?

Art
1992 Foretravel Grand Villa
U225 SBID Build No. 4134
1986 Rockwood Driftwood
1968 S.I.A.T.A. Spring
1962 Studebaker Lark
1986 Honda VF700C
1983 Honda VF750C
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