King cruise control

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King cruise control

August 15, 2023, 08:18:40 am

I just saw on the Foretravel owners group Facebook page that a person named Brent Delfel doing business as Advance Diagnostic Consulting.com advertised that he repairs King Cruse Control. Phone 501-500-3611. I don't know if this is legitimate. If it is this would be great be news

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Reply #1 – August 15, 2023, 08:36:31 am

I will let you know in a couple of hours. I have most of the parts in to do my air throttle but I would put them in storage in a heart beat to be able to put off the install. That's an Arkansas area code. Anxious to talk to this guy.

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Reply #2 – August 15, 2023, 08:50:34 am

I left a message, we will see.

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Reply #3 – August 15, 2023, 08:58:37 am

Advanced Diagnostic Consulting has a nice website...states "if it's diesel, we'll find the problem ". Interesting...

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Reply #4 – August 15, 2023, 09:10:14 am

I'm on the phone number like a chicken on a June bug. I followed up with a text message.

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Reply #5 – August 15, 2023, 09:25:00 am

I'll be getting in touch with him also since I have a spare unit with little time on it. Original owner of my coach switched it out for some reason when they were available. Previous repair records indicate that the king control unit was replaced before I took ownership at 50k miles. So I assume it has little wear on moving parts. It would be nice to have one in the spare parts bin ready to go.

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Reply #6 – August 15, 2023, 09:25:15 am

Answered my text. Would have to ship the box to the West Coast.I will need to study on this a bit.

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Reply #7 – August 15, 2023, 09:28:57 am

The way people move nowdays area codes ain't was they used to be.

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Reply #8 – August 15, 2023, 10:06:56 am

Advanced Diagnostic Consulting located in
Snohomish, Washington. That's great I'll be dropping off my spare unit sometime soon for a bench test.

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Reply #9 – August 15, 2023, 10:08:58 am

Please-- anyone who has experience with them and the repair of your King Control, please post on this thread. Be sure to include the symptoms, what they did and $$.

Would be great to have a new resource for repair of the King Control units.

THANKS!

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Reply #10 – August 15, 2023, 10:15:19 am

Just spoke with him and learned he is in Washington State. For the time being I'm pitching this to Doug, may be your next door neighbor.

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Reply #11 – August 15, 2023, 11:58:25 am

Quote from: Dub – August 15, 2023, 10:15:19 am

Just spoke with him and learned he is in Washington State. For the time being I'm pitching this to Doug, may be your next door neighbor.

Quote from: Dub – August 15, 2023, 09:25:15 am

Answered my text. Would have to ship the box to the West Coast.I will need to study on this a bit.

I hope this works out for you Dub! Our best to you and yours!

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Reply #12 – August 15, 2023, 12:10:36 pm

Anyone having any parts and/or broken controls get with this guy,maybe we can get an exchange unit going like we did with Redhead.

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Reply #13 – August 15, 2023, 03:14:53 pm

I may be still on the matter for the time being because I have all the components for the air throttle except the throttle cable and it should be her in a couple of weeks. These parts are not returnable and the amt of money is considerable. The number that Ron posted will reach the man so anyone with interest can reach him. I think he said this was mentioned on the Monaco site but I didn't see it and I've done some looking around concerning this project. Wish I'd found him before ordering my parts, I may have chose that route instead but it is what it is. He only last night posted on FB and I don't often look at that site and still wouldn't know of him if not for Ron telling us. I did tell him he would likely get some calls from our group. We all knew there should be someone somewhere that could offer help with the King unit but no one knew of such. I wont sit long with something as crucial as throttle failure without moving toward a repair and for me it was time to either fish or cut bait. Have places to go. It's good that those with the mechanical 8.3 seem to have another option for throttle and cruise issues.

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Reply #14 – August 15, 2023, 03:41:21 pm

I set up an appointment with Brent at Advance diagnostic nextweek. He's going to run my spare unit through the tests, says he'll need about an hour. Not sure what the symptoms or reasoning had been for replacement of this unit by the previous owner.

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Reply #15 – August 15, 2023, 04:28:09 pm

We also have a spare unit and cable,think the previous owners original went out he got a new one and then sent the old one for
repair.

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Reply #16 – August 15, 2023, 06:53:48 pm

Not sure what the symptoms or reasoning had been for replacement of this unit by the previous owner.

Back in the day when they were readily available I would wager to bet there were King units replaced that really didn't need to be. Other causes for intermittent low power/limp mode such as brake light switches, fuel solenoids, ect.. could very well have been the root cause when King problems were suspected as these symptoms first started showing up. (intermittently)

I personally suffered through this scenario of low power for a couple of years, very intermittent, might run fine for 6 or 8 months then out of the blue...bam! low power mode. I changed a few fuel filters needlessly, but every time I did it would start up and run fine until it decided to do it again. I just couldn't believe I had clogged filters the last couple of side of the road changes and after I cut them open my feelings were verified, they being clean inside.

This was during the time the original fellow (can't recall his name) was still repairing the King Control units and thinking surely mine was the culprit I sent him my unit for test/repair. "All is good with your unit" said he "works perfectly of the test bench". He did replace the cable, said the old one was still OK but considering it's age, the cable will probably be the first thing to cause you trouble.

Shortly after this I happened to notice my brake lights were on one day while sitting in my driveway...new pressure switches stopped that nonsense and I was confident my low power problem was solved.....not so, although it was even more intermittent...much more...it was still there.

To make a long story shorter, out of frustration I decided to replace my then 26 year old fuel solenoid. Bingo! no problems since. I know I had a flaky brake pressure switch no doubt about it, and apparently an intermittent lazy fuel solenoid also.....going on 3 years now with zero problems.

I still think there could have been some King boxes replaced back in the day unnecessarily.

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Reply #17 – August 15, 2023, 07:49:31 pm

In support of Ralph's lazy fuel solenoid, we once had a low throttle just like King would cause. Did many things, like fuel filters, etc. THEN found the solenoid was opening just enough to allow some fuel flow, but not enough to get speed above 10 mph. Of course, we all know now to look at fuel solenoid first and keep a few wire ties handy to fully open it to drive, cut them to stop. Repeat as necessary, even for a month if necessary.

It would be great to find someone who can keep King Controls working. Wonder if he knows all about it and how much business he can count on.

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Reply #18 – August 15, 2023, 08:09:00 pm

Brent says he's been working on King Throttle for years. He works on or offers support for diesel truck's as well as other equipment it seems. I expect him to make his way to our forum and he should be an asset.

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Reply #19 – August 15, 2023, 08:31:52 pm

Hello all, I been on a service call today but now back to the office. I am here to help.
My primary business is technical support in the heavy truck and equipment industry. I teach and do repair consulting for technicians. It is busy! I started my career in the late 80's at an RV dealership. I worked on luxury coaches for more than 20 years before getting into education and technical support. I know powertrain very well, and the king controller is something I have years of experience diagnosing. In the past few years I have been into several of them. So far I am 100% successful in repairing them. Parts are tough to get but I buy extra when I find them. I am looking for a controller I can buy to refurbish and have ready to go on an exchange program.

Cheers to you all🤘🏼

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Reply #20 – August 15, 2023, 09:27:44 pm

Welcome to the Forum.

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Reply #21 – August 15, 2023, 10:15:38 pm

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Reply #22 – August 17, 2023, 07:21:09 pm

Quote from: Doug W. – August 15, 2023, 03:41:21 pm

I set up an appointment with Brent at Advance diagnostic nextweek. He's going to run my spare unit through the tests, says he'll need about an hour. Not sure what the symptoms or reasoning had been for replacement of this unit by the previous owner.

It's been awhile since I've read through these old service records about replacing the kc-2600 actuator on my coach back in 2001 by Foretravel Northwest in Spokane Washington. At 33k miles coach came in for service due to throttle issues. King Cruise recommended changing out actuator unit along with control unit that was adjusted and calibrated.
2 years, 5k miles later back in shop for throttle issues again. This time they replaced just the control unit adjusted and calibrated.
My question is what is the control unit, cost of $65 and $75, in the accelerator pedal?

King Control: KC 2600 Throttle System Diagnostic Chart - All Things Foretravel

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Reply #23 – August 17, 2023, 08:14:34 pm

Recently I've been having problems with the cruise control. Sometimes it works sometimes it doesn't.
I suspect it may be the buttons on the steering wheel. Not sure how to take that apart though haven't really looked into it too much.
Barry I wouldn't assume that all of us know how to bypass the fuel solenoid. There's so many things that can happen on these things that I just generally wait until it does and then I ask for help. Then you guys help me and I learn.

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Reply #24 – August 17, 2023, 09:30:09 pm

The fuel solenoid that's been talked about are on the mechanical engines. You have an
electrical engine.

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