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Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #26 –
Personally not impressed. Low end chassis from Foretravel? And as others said large tail swing. And around 560K retail from the posted pic.
Dan - Full timing since 2009
2003 U320 40' Tag 2 slide

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #27 –
Tastefully done interior but that kitchen sink is too large...I'd rather have the counter space.
1993 U300 40ft GV SE
Build # 4344

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #28 –
Why not put "Foretravel" in place of Valerium up front?  At least a few people have heard of Foretravel.
Winter: Texas Rio Grande Valley or Foley, AL
Summer: The Gardens RV Community of Crossville, TN
2000 40 FT U270, Xtreme FBP
2017 C-Max Towed

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #29 –
I don't care for new wood materials at all, including in the new Foretravel's, The only benefit I see to Super C would be service work being done at a Heavy Duty Truck Center while traveling. And some of them will not work on a Motor Home. Not a fan of large rear hang over either with the small rear tires. I do like that they are looking at new product lines. The price seem high for a Super C at 560K if that is a correct price. I would not trade what I have for it, Way more craftsmanship in cabinetry, overall engineering and value in the older Foretravels.
Mike & Donna Mariana + Angel & Rusty
2003 U295 3620
Build# 6118
2021 Jeep Wrangler 392

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #30 –
Quote from: Jeff & Sandy –
$560,000

$65k more than Newmar's SuperStar
$75-100K more than a Renegade Verona LE

on par with the Renegade Explorer which is on the Cascadia chassis
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #31 –
If I were in the market for a Super C  I would be more inclined to spend about half or less and purchase an older one with a bit more class...
Doug W.
96 36' U270 CSGI #4946
04 Toyota Tacoma 4x4
PNW

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #32 –
Quote from: Doug W. –
If I were in the market for a Super C  I would be more inclined to spend about half or less and purchase an older one with a bit more class...
I'm a firm believer in buying high end older coaches.  Much of the worst depreciation is over, and you still get the build quality.
Dan - Full timing since 2009
2003 U320 40' Tag 2 slide

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #33 –
Valerium?  Is that birth control med or anti-depressant???  Foretravel has completely given up on marketing.  :(  :(
2001 4010 U320 build #5865 "Bluto-d-Bus" since 09/18
2006 Honda Element ESP Toad
Full timing since 2016 in Western MT
Copilot: Sitka
1975 GMC 260 Avion: sold

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #34 –
Underwhelmed!
Tim Dianics
Pam Sapienza
Vader PupZilla Labrador Canine Beast (AKA Pup)
Columbia, MO
1996 U320 4000
2021 Jeep Gladiator, Diesel

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #35 –
Clone of the Entegra Accolade XL?  That's on an S2RV chassis.  Appears to have the same rear overhang and style of paint job.  Maybe to appeal to the dirt/offroad motorsports crowd (especially with that party-seating layout)?



Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #36 –
Quote from: Woody & Sitka –
Valerium?  Is that birth control med or anti-depressant???  Foretravel has completely given up on marketing.  :(  :(
Foretravel is not in the marking business anymore. That is what Blue Compass is doing.

Quote from: Michelle –
Clone of the Entegra Accolade XL?  That's on an S2RV chassis.  Appears to have the same rear overhang and style of paint job.  Maybe to appeal to the dirt/offroad motorsports crowd (especially with that party-seating layout)?

Foretravel is getting their direction from Blue Compass so I am guessing Blue Compass feels there their might be a market for this. 

Are their any Foretravel employees at Tampa, or just Blue Compass dealers?
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #37 –
Tyle Fore is in attendance and at least one other. At least two new Foretravel coaches sold yesterday. Very impressive display, indoors across from Prevost


Tim Fiedler    2025 LTV Unity MBL on Order
2000 Chevy Tracker 2 Door Convertible 4WD Now lifted 4.5"
1985 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
Murphy Rebel on wheels with 175HP Titan
Cessna P337
1980 48' Westport MY (!/4 Share)

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #38 –
What is Blue Compass, have not heard that term.
Gary and Darlene
2008 Nimbus SE 4030 Tahoe
Build #6463

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #39 –
Quote from: 06ts –
What is Blue Compass, have not heard that term.
I was not familiar with them either.

https://www.bluecompassrv.com/about-us 

https://www.bluecompassrv.com/blog/rv-retailer-announces-rebranding-to-blue-compass-rv/

Blue Compass RV (formerly RV Retailer LLC) with over 100 full-service RV dealerships
Dan - Full timing since 2009
2003 U320 40' Tag 2 slide

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #40 –
To add to Dan's info...

Blue Compass started as RV Retailer LLC - 2 guys that left AutoNation to start their own RV dealership company.  Their first acquisition was Motorhome Specialists in Alvaredo, Texas (aka MHSRV) which they bought from the O'Banion family.  The O'Banions were the ones who were the sole dealer for the Realm when it was announced (and were the ones who spec'd it).  Donny O'Banion remains on their management team.

RV Retailer LLC then bought a couple of RV One dealerships in Florida, which is when you saw those dealerships start selling Foretravel (2018)

They have continued their acquisition plan, buying up family-owned RV dealerships around the country.  They have since rebranded to Blue Compass and now also own over 100 dealerships and last year acquired Coach-Net.

They and Lazy Days seem to be competing to see who can buy up the most existing RV dealers.  Kind of like Camping World/Marcus Lemonis did 15-20 years ago.
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #41 –
Did a little digging this morning - it's on the lesser S2RV chassis, so it would be a 360 ISB.

Competitors are the Entegra Accolade, Jayco Seneca, and Renegade Valencia, plus a few Thor offerings, all with "MSRP" in the $300K range, so at $560K it's priced nearly double.

S2RV Front-Engine Super-C Class RV Chassis | FCCC
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #42 –
What a sad day to see FT competing with Thor and Jayco
1987 Grand Villa ORED
2001 U320 4010

Not all that wander are lost... but I often am.

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #43 –
Just saw another photo that the MSRP is $680K.  The $560K is after show discount  :o

So yeah, more than double the price of anything else on the S2RV chassis.
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #44 –
Thanks for the Blue Compass info.
Gary and Darlene
2008 Nimbus SE 4030 Tahoe
Build #6463

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #45 –
Instead of low end chassis Super Cs Foretravel should (in my opinion)  try (again) a high end Class A sub 40'. Not everyone wants a 45' coach.  The IC 37 was ok, but not as well executed as some of the  competition.

Or at least if building  a SuperC do it on a high end chassis like the Cascadia, not the S2RV. The competition aimed for should be Renegade Classic, XL and Explorer.

Best ones to emulate for shorter high end Class A's are Newmar NewAire 35'10" ISL 450 Hp 1250 tq  and Newmar MountainAire 38'10" Cummins X12 525 Hp 1695 tq.

I especially like what Newmar did with the Mountain Aire, but big money just like new Foretravels.

Our 2003 U320 40' tag  is VERY good for the money compared to the MtAire($$$$) and far less new technology to have issues with as time goes on.

Dan - Full timing since 2009
2003 U320 40' Tag 2 slide

Re: Potential Foretravel super C at Tampa [Re: Grandvention 2023]

Reply #46 –
The super C drive better than the DP style , service much better.  As they get longer the rear over hang starts to degrade steering as well as turning radius  .  The sweet size seems to be around 36. My bud with an older C is trying to modify the steering so that he can stay in less than 3 lanes on right turns.