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Ride height

anyone know the ride height and where to measure from. 1996 u280 thanks
1996 U280 36 ft. With C8.3 Allison 6 speed With retarder. Purchased from Jimmy Fraytag
Previous  1990 Grand Villa 36 ft. with Cat 3208

Re: Ride height

Reply #1
Ride height 8.5" top and bottom mounting plates included, obviously photo is not in ride height.
Doug W.
96 36' U270 CSGI #4946
04 Toyota Tacoma 4x4
PNW

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Reply #2
Yup, take a scrap of wood (a piece of 1/4 round works well) and drive two nails-- exactly 8.5" apart.  Your new (low cost) Ride Height Measurement Tool.

It should fit from on top of the top plate to below the bottom plate.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Reply #3
thank you
1996 U280 36 ft. With C8.3 Allison 6 speed With retarder. Purchased from Jimmy Fraytag
Previous  1990 Grand Villa 36 ft. with Cat 3208

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Reply #4
I'm guessing not all coaches use the same right height.  If true, do we have a list of ride height by year/model?
Keith
2003 U320 38' #6197

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Reply #5
I would imagine all are the same at least up to 2005.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

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Reply #6
Keith, they were the same for our 1997 U320 as our 2003 U320.
Richard & Betty Bark & Keiko our Golden Doodle
2003 U320T 3820 PBDS
Build # 6215
MC # 16926
2016 Chevrolet Colorado 4X4 diesel

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Reply #7
The same except for U225, U240 and ORED's for all Foretravel 8 outboard air bag suspensions.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Reply #8
Y'all say all the same up to 2005. A placard inside my coach that has my build #, toe in specs, and a few other specs. Says ride ht 8"
Mike in AL
2001 U295
8.3 ISC 350
Build 5918

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Reply #9
That is for the bag itself, it is easier to measure on the outside of the plates.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
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Reply #10
8" bags  with a 1/4" plate on top and bottom. 
Justin & Cathy Byrd
1995 U280 "Old Faithful"
36' Build #4673
C8.3 Cummins
Allison MD3060R 6 speed - retarder
Powertech 10KW  4cyl Kubota

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Reply #11
And if you want to go by the "Book", it's "from the top of the bottom plate to the bottom of the top plate" which is 8 1/4".
Richard & Betty Bark & Keiko our Golden Doodle
2003 U320T 3820 PBDS
Build # 6215
MC # 16926
2016 Chevrolet Colorado 4X4 diesel

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Reply #12
That is for the bag itself, it is easier to measure on the outside of the plates.
Good to know.

And as i have never done it, i assume this measurement is taken when the coach is running, flat ground and in travel mode ready to roll?
Mike in AL
2001 U295
8.3 ISC 350
Build 5918

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Reply #13
And as i have never done it, i assume this measurement is taken when the coach is running, flat ground and in travel mode ready to roll?
Correct.... what you said, coach in neutral and parking brake set (so it won't roll away).  THEN check ride height.  ^.^d
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
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Reply #14
Looks like mine are sitting around 8.5" to 9".  Any reason to fret over 1/2" high?
Keith
2003 U320 38' #6197

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Reply #15
Nope, I keep mine set 1/2" high due to bottoming out on some of our fine roads and bridges.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

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Reply #16
I checked mine while at Q a found my rears were more than an inch low. There was evidence of my wheels hitting the inside top of the wheel wells. Some fellow foretravelers, with the magic 8 1/2 in. measuring stick, showed me how to adjust my valves and no longer hitting inside wheel wells. Front was about a 1/4 in. low. Left this for now until I can make some safety blocks to hold up coach to reach valve. Rears were easily accessed thru rear hatches...
Keith and Dawn Hudson #18766
Current- 1999 U295 DFGE 40ft. - Build #5405
Coach Name: 4BUS4US
Previous- 2008 Nimbus CE338: 40th Anniversary Edition- Build #6486. 
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Reply #17
Un fortunately to set the ride height you have to be in travel mode. The front on is nearly impossible to access in travel mode.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

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Reply #18
Un fortunately to set the ride height you have to be in travel mode. The front on is nearly impossible to access in travel mode.
I was thinking about that.  An adjuster in the wheel well would be nice - adjust up, adjust down, double-check - done!

Instead...  measure, air-lift the chassis, block, crawl under, adjust, crawl out, unblock, return to ride height, measure, air-lift the chassis, block, crawl under, adjust, crawl out, unblock, return to ride height, measure, air-lift the chassis, block, crawl under, adjust, crawl out, unblock, return to ride height, measure, air-lift the chassis, block, crawl under, adjust, crawl out, unblock, return to ride height, measure, air-lift the chassis, block, crawl under, adjust, crawl out, unblock, return to ride height, measure, air-lift the chassis, block, crawl under, adjust, crawl out, unblock, return to ride height...

Seriously, it took me three tries to get it right, starting from an unadjusted new ride height valve.  Maybe fifteen minutes!
Matt B
1998 u-320

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Reply #19
I was thinking about that.  An adjuster in the wheel well would be nice - adjust up, adjust down, double-check - done!

Instead...  measure, air-lift the chassis, block, crawl under, adjust, crawl out, unblock, return to ride height, measure, air-lift the chassis, block, crawl under, adjust, crawl out, unblock, return to ride height, measure, air-lift the chassis, block, crawl under, adjust, crawl out, unblock, return to ride height, measure, air-lift the chassis, block, crawl under, adjust, crawl out, unblock, return to ride height, measure, air-lift the chassis, block, crawl under, adjust, crawl out, unblock, return to ride height, measure, air-lift the chassis, block, crawl under, adjust, crawl out, unblock, return to ride height...

Seriously, it took me three tries to get it right, starting from an unadjusted new ride height valve.  Maybe fifteen minutes!
I drove the front end up on ramps (enough lift so I couldn't be crushed if bags deflated) and adjusted with the coach running. Still scary as hell though
1987 Grand Villa ORED
2001 U320 4010

Not all that wander are lost... but I often am.

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Reply #20
Roll the bus fronts  up onto 2 x12.  Pull brake ,  chock 4 rear tires.  leave running  , Check for not rolling, .
 Make  your check after the air dryer purges.
   
      Measure ride height  at a place that you have data for.  Some are at the fender , after transferring the bag plate dimensions to the fender lip gaps. 
 Moving the rear  ride height up or down a tiny bit may extend the drive shaft U joints' life . or reduce any drive line vibration, or magnify a vibration .
 Moving the front up or down may change the steering wheel position a tiny bit .

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Reply #21
Looks like mine are sitting around 8.5" to 9".  Any reason to fret over 1/2" high?

I don't know the max delta from specs that you can get away with.

Two points of failure if straying from specs:
The short driveshaft can change angles between transmission and rear axle quite a bit with just small changes in ride height.
Shocks have a "collapsed" and "extended" length. If ride height too low, shocks can crush on compression. If too long, they can pull apart on extension.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

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Reply #22
For those of you that have adjusted ride height, which way do you turn the adjustment to provide more height?
I haven't looked up close on the adjusters yet....assuming there's some sort of locking nut before you can adjust?
Dylan and Aimee
2001 U320 4013
Unit# 5896
450 HP/IFS
 

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Reply #23
For those of you that have adjusted ride height, which way do you turn the adjustment to provide more height?
I haven't looked up close on the adjusters yet....assuming there's some sort of locking nut before you can adjust?
There's a metal rod that sits in two rubber sleeves with a band clamp around each. You undo the clamp and slide the rod in or out of that sleeve to adjust height
1987 Grand Villa ORED
2001 U320 4010

Not all that wander are lost... but I often am.

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Reply #24
Thanks, which way do you slide it for height? Am I assuming correctly that if you shorten the rod it gains you height?
Dylan and Aimee
2001 U320 4013
Unit# 5896
450 HP/IFS