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Check engine light - high fuel pressure

Strange thing happened a couple of days ago. Been parked in camp since.

Turned from one highway to another at about 5 mph. Immediately started down a 10% grade for about 600 yards. Pulled the retarder back to full and started down the hill. Transmission in normal drive mode. VMSpc showing 6th gear selected. As I neared the bottom, and was about to step on the throttle, a couple of things happened/were noticed almost simultaneously.

First, the transmission never up shifted. My VMSpc indicated I was in 2nd gear. I would have thought it would up shift if the rpm's were too high.

Second, the CEL came on for about 1-2 seconds and I got 2-3 dings on the alarm.

Third, about then, I stepped on the throttle, the transmission up shifted, the CEL went out and everything was normal.

Fourth, checking the VMSpc after we got to camp showed a high fuel pressure fault code associated with the CEL.

Not realizing the transmission had not up shifted, I may have hit the upper rpm limit. I did not notice what the tachometer was reading.

So a couple of questions:

Anything I should watch for as I head on down the road?

Is the CAPS fuel pump pressure related to engine rpm? 

Is the CAPS fuel pump direct drive off the engine?  Would high rpm's cause higher fuel pressure?

Any other thoughts on what happened?

Thanks

Rich

Rich and Peggy Bowman
2002 U270 3610 WTFS, build #5939--"Freedom"
2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit 4xe
SMI AirForceOne brake system
PakCanoe 15

Re: Check engine light - high fuel pressure

Reply #1
The caps pump is driven directly off the engine timing gears. Under a full load the ECM wants to see 15k of high pressure injection pressure( produced inside the injection pump). I suppose at very high RPM it could produce pressure higher than called for. Just a guess. Just went through 2 weeks of CAPS injector pomp hell.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

Re: Check engine light - high fuel pressure

Reply #2
Thanks. That's my best guess on the high pressure reading. Hopefully it won't recur.

Still not sure why it didn't up shift but maybe it did automatically just before I stepped on the throttle.

I had about $3K of repairs done on the CAPS system about 5 years ago.

Rich
Rich and Peggy Bowman
2002 U270 3610 WTFS, build #5939--"Freedom"
2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit 4xe
SMI AirForceOne brake system
PakCanoe 15

Re: Check engine light - high fuel pressure

Reply #3
Might be a good idea to check for DIAGNOSTIC  CODES using the Allison shift pad.

Certainly worth the 2 minutes it takes.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Re: Check engine light - high fuel pressure

Reply #4
Brett

Will do when we get to camp tonight.

Rich
Rich and Peggy Bowman
2002 U270 3610 WTFS, build #5939--"Freedom"
2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit 4xe
SMI AirForceOne brake system
PakCanoe 15

Re: Check engine light - high fuel pressure

Reply #5
No transmission codes.  No problems while driving yesterday.

I'm going to claim a temporary CEL caused by high engine rpm's and hope it doesn't recur.

Thanks for the info/suggestions.

Rich
Rich and Peggy Bowman
2002 U270 3610 WTFS, build #5939--"Freedom"
2022 Jeep Grand Cherokee Summit 4xe
SMI AirForceOne brake system
PakCanoe 15

Re: Check engine light - high fuel pressure

Reply #6
Most engines have a higher no load rpm than the engines normal redline under load to allow overrev down grades
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

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08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

Re: Check engine light - high fuel pressure

Reply #7
I'm just more conservative and don't let it get past 2000 rpm (2130 rpm fuel cutoff). The Jake usually keeps it in check but if not, I use a firm service brake application to drop the speed/rpm 300-400 rpm and then let it build again or downshift if it builds too fast.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
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