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An inspector mentioned here is banned from MOT ?


After a year+ lurking around, reading , seeing 100s of RV reviews , Andrew steele, AZ expert, and many more we are now ready to pull the trigger and I ended on Foretravel U320 38 foot form 2003-2005
I am negotiating with a salesperson at MOT, and wanted coach inspected and by many recomandations I asked if Keith Risch could do it, and was told he is not allowed there ?  anyone know why ?
more importantly salesperson mentioned a Bob Holcomb could do it ?


Any input advice ?

tia

Rune

Re: An inspector mentioned here is banned from MOT ?

Reply #1 –
Don't know why and don't know Keith but it sounds kind of ridiculus to me,tell them,no Keith no deal,a few like that and they will be calling him.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

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Reply #2 –
Keith is the best.  Honest, thorough, incredible helpful and probably one of the most knowledgeable guys in the business.  He did my inspection and my service work at MOT and now that he has his own when he started his own business, I've followed him there.

 I don't know MOT's reasons, other than he is now a competitor in the service arena, but sales and service are separate entities.  Would be a dealbreaker for me.

Joe Phebus and Jaime Trujillo
2002 U270 3410  Build: 5953 Motorcader # 18595
2100 W Solar, 600 AH Battleborn Batteries,  Victron Multi-Plus II 3000 Inverter, Cerbo GX, & MPPT Chargers
1992 Geo Tracker

Re: An inspector mentioned here is banned from MOT ?

Reply #3 –
Keith Risch has his own shop now (ex employee) and is a direct competitor to MOT

Tim Fiedler

Tim Fiedler    2025 LTV Unity MBL on Order
2000 Chevy Tracker 2 Door Convertible 4WD Now lifted 4.5"
1985 Citroen 2CV6 Charleston
Murphy Rebel on wheels with 175HP Titan
Cessna P337
1980 48' Westport MY (!/4 Share)

Re: An inspector mentioned here is banned from MOT ?

Reply #4 –
Please keep the discussion to the issue of getting an independent coach inspection on a unit at MOT.  An off-topic post was removed.
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: An inspector mentioned here is banned from MOT ?

Reply #5 –
You are targeting the most advanced (complex) years of the unicoach. Lot's of big ticket items that MOT will be happy to fix for you while having a proven track record of "shining up" the coach while it's on the lot . I would not buy it without an inspection you are 100% comfortable with. There is no debate about who is the best inspector out there and I'd hold out for his help if this is your first unicoach.
1987 Grand Villa ORED
2001 U320 4010

Not all that wander are lost... but I often am.

Re: An inspector mentioned here is banned from MOT ?

Reply #6 –
Bob Holcomb is very experienced. He showed me Foretravels CAD machine at the unihome introduction in Nac in Oct 87.
"Riding and rejoicing"
Bob
1997 U320 40' Mid entry, build 5132,  wtbi ce27, 4th owner
2007 Solara convertible
2 prodeco tech outlaw ss electric bikes

1095 watts solar
08 Ls 460 and a sc430
2000 Ford F-250 superduty 4x4

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Reply #7 –
Quote from: Z06Norway –
more importantly salesperson mentioned a Bob Holcomb could do it ?


Is this inspector affiliated with MOT?

One of the rules in real estate is never use the salesperson's recommended home inspector.  Potential conflict of interest.
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: An inspector mentioned here is banned from MOT ?

Reply #8 –
Michelle took the words out of my mouth. . .

Re: An inspector mentioned here is banned from MOT ?

Reply #9 –
We will never know for sure unless someone from MOT tells us why Keith is not allowed,from what I know MOT does not do a
comprehensive inspection on their coaches for sale,that being said MOT is in business to sell coaches and if I were them I
would'nt care who inspected the coach,it's a moot point we could speculate on till doomsday.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

Re: An inspector mentioned here is banned from MOT ?

Reply #10 –
We all know who the best inspector is for a Foretravel coach. Glad Keith was able to inspect mine.
Gary and Darlene
2008 Nimbus SE 4030 Tahoe
Build #6463

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Reply #11 –
Your question should be - can I have the coach inspected off site?  If so, there's no longer a barrier.  If not, you have a decision to make.
Steve and Cassi
2007 Foretravel Nimbus 42'

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Reply #12 –
Update:
Bob is doing inspection on Monday or Tuesday, deal is signed, deposit paid
fingers crossed

Also spoke to Keith or txt more correctly, and will visit him on pickup day .
Not everyone travel 6000 miles to pick up an old lady :-)

sept 22nd or 23rd is my best guess for me flying in and take over my first ever US Coach, :-). 

I owned a Volvo B10M, mid engine layout, handled great stainless steel body and panels... no rust ever !
It was built with a lift in the rear so I could fit my race car and tools back and we lived up front.. approx 42 feet

ah me rambling,...  thanks all for input , look forward to this adventure

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Reply #13 –
38' tandem axle with two slide outs .... you had me at 38" :-)
Unless something crazy out of the ordinary it is probbaly in very good shape for what they are letting it go for.
I'd prefer Keith over anyone but I am sure you will be ok on a long run.
Good Luck & Enjoy.
Former 2003 GV U295 (6230) (2015 - 2025)
Former 94 GV U225 (2013-2016)

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Reply #14 –
The B10M looks like a nifty machine, very interesting! Best of luck with your new Foretravel.

Re: An inspector mentioned here is banned from MOT ?

Reply #15 –
In my personal experience with MOT ... and our experience took place in 2011 ...  if this is a coach THEY own, they will have done a bit more to "comprehensively inspect " a rig that they are advertising for sale.  If it is a consignment coach, they will spiff up the interior, perhaps fluff a pillow, and then tell you "This baby is ready to go!" 

An independent inspection is a real necessity, whether you have a done deal already, or not.  If you have already signed on the dotted line, you will have a plan going forward on how to manage your coach bucks for the maintenance coming up.



Carol & Jeff Savournin
Usta have a '93 U225 36', Usta have a '95 U320 40', Usta have a '02 U320 40'
Usta have a 2006 Born Free, Usta have a 2011 Phoenix Cruiser
Usta have a 2012 Jeep Wrangler Unlimited 4dr
"Your time is limited, so don't waste it living someone else's life."  Steve Jobs

Re: An inspector mentioned here is banned from MOT ?

Reply #16 –
We are new owners of a 2005 U320 (June 2024) We have owned multiple coaches over the last 24 years and were fortunate enough to get Keith Risch to fly to Deerfield Beach Fl. to do the inspection, worked out very well he did a great job!!
Harvey and Mary Ann
40' 94 Country Coach Affinity no slides
40' 00 Country Coach Affinity 1 slide
42' 09 American Eagle 3 slides
45' 18 Newmar Mountain Aire 3 slides
40' 05 Foretravel U320 2 slides current

Re: An inspector mentioned here is banned from MOT ?

Reply #17 –
How did it go with Keith? Was he able to inspect the before or after you purchased?

I am also in a similar position, planning to fly to Nac to purchase a u320 soon and am looking for an unbiased inspection by a 3rd party.

Quote from: Z06Norway –
Update:
Bob is doing inspection on Monday or Tuesday, deal is signed, deposit paid
fingers crossed

Also spoke to Keith or txt more correctly, and will visit him on pickup day .
Not everyone travel 6000 miles to pick up an old lady :-)

sept 22nd or 23rd is my best guess for me flying in and take over my first ever US Coach, :-). 

I owned a Volvo B10M, mid engine layout, handled great stainless steel body and panels... no rust ever !
It was built with a lift in the rear so I could fit my race car and tools back and we lived up front.. approx 42 feet

ah me rambling,...  thanks all for input , look forward to this adventure
1999 U320 40 WTFE build #5462

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Reply #18 –
MOT did not allow Keith or Bob to do the inspection.  So I just purchased the coach and took it straight to Keith afterwards.  Fingers crossed
1999 U320 40 WTFE build #5462

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Reply #19 –
Quote from: jammoto –
MOT did not allow Keith or Bob to do the inspection.  So I just purchased the coach and took it straight to Keith afterwards.  Fingers crossed
Wow Bob now too? At least when it was just Keith they could hind behind the guise of some sort of bad relationship with an ex-employee. Now it just looks like they don't want competent inspections being done. Super shady.
1987 Grand Villa ORED
2001 U320 4010

Not all that wander are lost... but I often am.

Re: An inspector mentioned here is banned from MOT ?

Reply #20 –
I don't usually post here, but I see there's been a lot of questions and comments about our inspection policy, and I wanted to give an official response.

We welcome third-party inspectors to come to our lot and perform inspections, but we do have a few requirements. Specifically, we ask that the inspector is both insured and certified by a reputable organization, such as NRVIA. We've had instances where inspectors without proper experience or qualifications showed up, and our staff ended up having to explain things like inverters or slide-out systems. This can be time-consuming and, frankly, counterproductive for everyone involved.

Our policy is designed to protect not just the buyer and the seller, but also the integrity of the motorhomes we sell here at Motorhomes of Texas. Whether it's a home, car, or RV, it's always in everyone's best interest to ensure that anyone working on or inspecting the vehicle has proper insurance and expertise.

I also want to share a bit of advice: before committing to an inspection, consider taking the time to visit the coach in person. Many times, we've seen inspections come back with positive results, but when buyers see the coach up close, something about the layout or features just doesn't feel right. In these cases, the only one who benefits is the inspector.

If you have any questions or would like to discuss this further, feel free to reach out to me directly via email.


Thanks

Mel Cordray Sales Director, Motorhomes of Texas
melc@motorhomesoftexas.com

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Reply #21 –
Quote from: M Cordray –
We welcome third-party inspectors to come to our lot and perform inspections, but we do have a few requirements. Specifically, we ask that the inspector is both insured and certified by a reputable organization, such as NRVIA. W
Mel I think we all know that an NRVIA certification doesn't go very far in the world of Foretravels, particularly the Unicoaches. They're very unique coaches with a specific set of things to worry about. That's the reason everyone wants Keith to do their inspections.

And as for the insurance, correct me if I'm wrong here, but while the consignment coaches are on your lot, they are typically not covered by the owners insurance policy or your own? If true, seems like an odd place to all of a sudden start worrying about it.
1987 Grand Villa ORED
2001 U320 4010

Not all that wander are lost... but I often am.

Re: An inspector mentioned here is banned from MOT ?

Reply #22 –
Quote from: Elliott –
And as for the insurance, correct me if I'm wrong here, but while the consignment coaches are on your lot, they are typically not covered by the owners insurance policy or your own?

I would expect Mel is referring to liability insurance carried by the inspector.  Should an inspector that is not an MOT employee damage a coach (or MOT property), it would be his/her business liability insurance that covers the damage/repair, not MOT's or the coach owner's policy.
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

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Reply #23 –
Quote from: Michelle –
I would expect Mel is referring to liability insurance carried by the inspector.  Should an inspector that is not an MOT employee damage a coach (or MOT property), it would be his/her business liability insurance that covers the damage/repair, not MOT's or the coach owner's policy.
Sure, I understand that and it's totally reasonable. But my understanding is that when you put your coach on consignment at MOT, your insurance typically quits covering it at all and MOT doesn't provide any coverage either. I haven't consigned a coach with them, so that's why I'm asking for confirmation. But if true, whether or not an inspector is insured is a far smaller concern than the random people test driving your coach. It just seems like a convenient rule to have when the last thing you want is good inspectors wiping the lipstick off the pig on your lot.
1987 Grand Villa ORED
2001 U320 4010

Not all that wander are lost... but I often am.

Re: An inspector mentioned here is banned from MOT ?

Reply #24 –
Mel,your post did nothing to address the banning of Keith,part of the post is you moaning that a motorhome salesman had to
explain a slide.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.