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Detailed Procedures to Adjust Ride Height

I've searched all over this forum and others and have not located a detailed step by step instruction on how to adjust the  motorhome ride height.  There is plenty of info on how the ride height should be set, i.e., 8" or 8 1/2" depending on where one measures.  What the ride height valves look like and where they are located.  How to adjust the valves to put more or less air in the air springs/bags.  But no step by step instructions from beginning to end.  So this is what I think should be done.  I have not tried this.  Your comments and concerns are appreciated.

1.  Start the engine and bring up the coach air pressure to blow off.  Check the air gauges to ensure proper pressure (~ 110 to 120 psi) is in the front and rear brake air tanks.
2.  Retract any slides that have been deployed.
3.  Place the coach in travel mode by pressing the Travel Mode button on the HWH control panel.  If the green light does not light, press the brake pedal and release the parking brake.  If the Travel Mode green light does not light after releasing the parking brake seek help from MOT, FOT or this forum.
4.  If need be, drive the coach to a place where it can be parked on a fairly level surface. After stopping place the transmission in "N" and set the parking brake.  Block the coach wheels for additional safety.
5.  Measure the ride height at four points.  I use a carpenter's combination square.  In front, select a point near the air bags behind the steer tires.  In the rear, select a point near the air bags in front of the drive tires.  Note that the top and bottom of air bags are attached to horizontal steel frames.  The correct ride height is 8.5" between these two horizontal steel frames.  Proceed further if you need to adjust the travel ride height.
6.  Before you proceed, you will want to note each ride height valve control rod position in relation to the valve body.  Take a picture, use a marking pen.  The rod's position in relation to the valve body denotes that the ride height valve is closed.
7.  On the HWH control panel raise the coach so that each corner is about 8.75" to 9" measured at the air bags positions listed in #5.  Raising the coach will disable the travel mode function and the ride height valves.
8.  Insert 4x4x8.5" blocks or equivalent next to the four corner air bags.  In front select the bags behind the steer tires.  In the rear select the bags in front of the drive tires.
9.  On the HWH control panel slowly lower the coach frame until it barely touches the tops of the blocks on each corner.  This process will require two people.  One person to operate the HWH control panel and one person to observe the coach lower process.  Please note the coach is not in travel mode at this time.  Since the coach is not in travel mode, the ride hight control valves are not operational.
10.  Inspect each ride height valve, two in the rear just behind the drive tires and one in the front between the steer tires.  The rear ride height valves control side to side measurements and the front ride height valve controls front to rear measurements.  I read somewhere that the front to back measurement is kind of critical since it controls the angle of the driveshaft between the transmission and the differential.
10A.  Each ride height valve has a metal control rod/arm that sticks out perpendicular to the body of the valve.  The rod/arm is attached to a vertical stem that is connected to the lower frame of the coach.  The position of the control rod in relation to the valve body determines  air flow to the bag(s).  When the control rod/arm is in a horizontal/perpendicular position to the valve,  the valve is closed and no air can enter or exit the air bags controlled by that ride height valve.  PLEASE NOTE:  I MAY HAVE THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION BACKWARD:  If the control rod/arm is pushed up by the vertical stem, the ride height valve supplies more air to the controlled bags.  If the control rod/arm is pulled down by the vertical stem, the ride height valve exhausts air from the controlled bags.
10B.  One by one inspect the control rod/arm position of each ride height valve.  If the arm position is not horizontal/perpendicular to the ride height valve, the valve needs adjustment.
11..  Turn off the engine if you want to at this time.
12.  Adjust the ride height valve(s) by loosening one or both of the two clamps on the vertical stem (ref #10A) placing the ride height control rod/arm in a horizontal position relative to the valve.  Ref #6 to get this measurement as close as possible.  Doing this will close the ride height valve turning off the air to the controlled air bag(s).  Retighten the clamps ensuring the metal vertical stem is clamped between the rubber stem and the metal rod/stem.
13.  Start the engine and bring the air system up to blow off.
14.  At the HWH control panel press the ALL raise button; remove the four blocks.
15.  After removing the blocks press the travel mode button on the HWH control panel.  This procedure will activate the three ride height control valves which will deflate the bags till the ride height valves reach neutral.  You should be able to hear the air being dumped out of the bags.  On my coach the rear dumping process finishes before the front.  Since all the valve arm positions have been adjusted to horizontal/perpendicular, the HWH system will assume the coach ride height is correct.  Measure the distance at each corner to ensure the coach is at proper ride height.
16.  Drive the coach around the block and recheck starting with #4.
David & Sherry Kendrick
"Gizmo" The Doggy Lama
USAF(Ret) 1971-75; 1979-95 (20 yrs)
2003 U320 F03 [6179] 38PBDS (3/2016)
2016 Chev Silverado Z71 LTZ
Motorcade 17738
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New Horizons 5W 25' RKS (1/2004 - 3/2016)
2003 Chev Silverado 2500HD Duramax
Tent (5-person) White Stag (1972 - 2003)

Re: Detailed Procedures to Adjust Ride Height

Reply #1
10.  .  I read somewhere that the front to back measurement is kind of critical since it controls the angle of the driveshaft between the transmission and the differential.
Also affects the castor angle on the front end affecting steering

Re: Detailed Procedures to Adjust Ride Height

Reply #2
Always check and adjust the two rear ride height valves before going to the front.

In front, you will "average" left and right readings as it is likely that one side will be slightly higher than the other.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: Detailed Procedures to Adjust Ride Height

Reply #3
The only issue I see is it is near impossible to crawl under the front to measure and mark the front height control valve unless you raise the coach before doing so. Even little guys like me cant do it comfortably. Other than that, a very good explanation.
Peter    Alberta Canada
'98 U320 40'  Build 5359 M11 450 HP, Aqua hot, Blu Ox

Re: Detailed Procedures to Adjust Ride Height

Reply #4
Welllll, this going to draw some attention. To adjust ride height in the front wife raises the coach I go under let things return to ride height, adjust, raise get out done. I have a metal jig to check the ride height.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

Re: Detailed Procedures to Adjust Ride Height

Reply #5
OR choose a location where you can park the coach with the nose a little down and drive the front wheels up on 2" X6"'s to make coach level. Now room to safely work under there.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: Detailed Procedures to Adjust Ride Height

Reply #6
OR choose a location where you can park the coach with the nose a little down and drive the front wheels up on 2" X6"'s to make coach level. Now room to safely work under there.
It would take more than 2x6 for this old fat guy to get under there 😃😎👍
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

Re: Detailed Procedures to Adjust Ride Height

Reply #7
Ref my original post.
7.  On the HWH control panel raise the coach so that each corner is about 8.75" to 9" measured at the air bags positions listed in #5.  Raising the coach will disable the travel mode function and the ride height valves.
8.  Insert 4x4x8.5" blocks or equivalent next to the four corner air bags.  In front select the bags behind the steer tires.  In the rear select the bags in front of the drive tires.
9.  On the HWH control panel slowly lower the coach frame until it barely touches the tops of the blocks on each corner.  This process will require two people.  One person to operate the HWH control panel and one person to observe the coach lower process.  Please note the coach is not in travel mode at this time.  Since the coach is not in travel mode, the ride hight control valves are not operational
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Yesterday I read on SOB ride height instructions to always measure the ride height while inflating the air bags.  So if this is correct my procedures in the above paragraphs need to be rewritten as follows:

7.  The following process will require two people.  One person to operate the HWH control panel and one person to observe the coach air bags.  On the HWH control panel dump all the air out of the air bags.  Dumping the air will disable the travel mode function and the ride height valves.

8.  After purging the air from the air bags, raise the rear of the coach very slowly until you can insert 4x4x8.5" blocks or equivalent next to  the bags in front of the drive tires.  You may have to raise the space a little more than 8.5" to accommodate the lowering of rear of the motorcoach when you raise the front to set the front ride height.  In order to calculate this measurement, remove the 8.5" blocks and then raise the front end of the coach to 8.5".  This should lower the distance of the rear bags somewhat from 8.5".  Add the delta between the 8.5" and the new measurement to 8.5".  Deflate all air bags and repeat slowly raising the rear to the newly calculated height.  Then again raise the front to 8.5".  Recheck the rear measurement to ensure it is at 8.5"

9.  DELETE THIS PARAGRAPH

10.  .... I read somewhere that the front to back measurement is kind of critical since it controls the angle of the driveshaft between the transmission and the differential.

Not sure this is correct.  I have read in other posts that the rear ride measurements are what affect the driveline. 
David & Sherry Kendrick
"Gizmo" The Doggy Lama
USAF(Ret) 1971-75; 1979-95 (20 yrs)
2003 U320 F03 [6179] 38PBDS (3/2016)
2016 Chev Silverado Z71 LTZ
Motorcade 17738
--------------------------------------
New Horizons 5W 25' RKS (1/2004 - 3/2016)
2003 Chev Silverado 2500HD Duramax
Tent (5-person) White Stag (1972 - 2003)

Re: Detailed Procedures to Adjust Ride Height

Reply #8
Yes, rear ride height is a lot more critical for driveline alignment than front to back.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: Detailed Procedures to Adjust Ride Height

Reply #9
Unless the suspension has been damaged, the yoke alignment between the rear end and the transmission should be fine. Easy to just check the angle at the third member and the yoke coming off the transmission. They should be exactly the same. Once this is done, the angle of the driveshaft (not the yokes) should be from a little over zero to 3 degrees. This is the angle between the yoke and the driveshaft. Zero degrees does not permit the cups on the universal to be lubricated.

I just run the engine with it in  travel mode and check the airbag distance.

If you have a rear flat like I did, it may take out the ride height control rod. The coach cannot be driven without the rod so you will have to repair the rod the best you can and use duct tape to tape it to the shock asorbers once you get the ride height close.

Boats are the same with the  engine/transmission centerline angle the same as the propeller shaft angle.

See the attached JPEG for examples.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: Detailed Procedures to Adjust Ride Height

Reply #10
Raising or lowering the rear a tiny bit can reduce some driveline vibrations.    If you have a nice quiet driveline with none or minimal vibrations, measure the ride height for future reference.    If it is near the spec leave as is . Don't worry about a small variance from the book spec. 

  If , on the other hand you have a driveline vibe at certain speeds that annoy you,  measure and move the height to the other end of tolerance  zone.  Vibrations will eventually  destroy stuff.

  Remember that changing the front height  affects the steering arm, shock travel range, headlight aim, etc.  The 8 in of bag extension is near the upper 66-70% of the bag travel . Moving it a wee bit  may change your steering wheel position .  You can use this to extend steering box life also . The steering wheel  change also means that the steering box  is now centered in a slightly new place on the gear.    Of course if you move it too far , you will have too much other issues like turn radius, self centering. etc. 

  I set my ride height  in a large parking lot.  Note the fender gap over each tire with my fist .  My bus is not exactly square on the frame . One side is about a half in further from the fender if the chassis is  level. 

Re: Detailed Procedures to Adjust Ride Height

Reply #11
I use a metal jig and set and check the ride height. Quick and easy. Reasonably level service 30min or less done. Had to adjust it once in the past couple of years. Not a big deal.
Bruce, Linda, and Macy
Zoey RIP 1/20/19
1999 U295 40' build #5400
2017 silver Jeep Wrangler, 1260 watts of solar on top
Moving around the country

Re: Detailed Procedures to Adjust Ride Height

Reply #12
I use a metal jig and set and check the ride height. Quick and easy. Reasonably level service 30min or less done. Had to adjust it once in the past couple of years. Not a big deal.

Yup, easy to make a jig.  I used a piece of wood and two long nails with 8.5" exactly between the nails.

Foretravel 8 bag ride height 8.5" top of top plate to bottom of bottom plate is the same as 8" between ΒΌ"plates  and is easier to measure.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: Detailed Procedures to Adjust Ride Height

Reply #13
As far as a possible cause of vibration, if you ever need to be towed, make sure to pull BOTH axles and fit the plastic axle caps you purchased instead of letting a tow truck driver pull the driveshaft. They can fail to mark it for reassembly or lose some of the needle bearings. At least once a year, more if driven in the rain, look at the universals. Any red deposits mean it's dry and in need of maintenance. So, use a grease gun when you inspect and you are less likely to have a problem.

While you are at it, pull the little chrome caps off the front wheels and check for water by looking through the plastic cover. You never want a wheel bearing failure. Especially important if stored outside or driven much in the rain. One member had a major failure because of this that cost a lot of $$ and time.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)