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Re: Smart TV to Sound System in IH-45

Reply #25 –
Quote from: turbojack –
Herb, have you gotten yours working?

We are on a one week trip. My front TV will work for a while,  then go black. Message will pop up saying no connection.  Then after a few minutes picture will be back. Then it all starts over again.  Since I had a HDMI go bad on the slide TV, I am going to replace these first.

Do you have two TVs in the front?  I have TV mounted in the ceiling between the Driver and passenger seats, and another smaller TV on a Televator in the desk behind the drivers seat.  Since I have owned my coach, we have only used the larger Ceiling TV and its internal speakers.  I had connected the original TV to the internet with an Amazon Fire stick.  The PO connected with a ROKU, which I never activated although it was giving us a picture and sound through the local speakers in the TV.  My new TV Samsung connects directly to the internet, so I do not need to use the Firestick or Roku.  I use the Samsung remote to select YouTube TV which gives me local Channels and enough other channels to satisfy our needs.  We can connect to almost unlimited stuff as long as we have internet.  So I cancelled my Dish Network account and have no need for the two satellite dishes on top of the coach.  So I guess I am saying that your TV going black intermittently could be from not getting an input signal to the TV which could be HDMI cable or some glitch in the input signal to the TV.  Try different sources for the input.  Does your Blu-ray give you the same symptoms as the satellite dishes?
Herb and Willie
Escapees 90802
2014 IH-45 Build 6581
2002 U320 40' AGDS Build 6021 Sold
1999 U320 36' No Slides Sold
2007 Monaco Dynasty Diamond IV Sold
2005 Discovery 39 Sold
1986 20' Wilderness TT,  Died a natural death after floods, etc.
Walldog's Journeys
And Willie Said

Re: Smart TV to Sound System in IH-45

Reply #26 –
I have 1 TV overhead in the front. and one in the slide mounted next to the refrigerator. 

I started testing tonight and it is looking like the Transformer Engineering  HD-1 Transmitter or the Receiver.  I put an email into Brad at FOT to see what they are using now.  To troubleshoot I connected a monitor to the HD-1 behind the panel in the front and after some time picture went away.  I powered down and back up the HD-1 and picture came back for a while. I went to before the HD-1 Transmitter in the closet and connected my monitor there. Picture never went away.
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

Re: Smart TV to Sound System in IH-45

Reply #27 –

Well the extender balm's that I purchased were the wrong ones for sending the audio back to the receiver via arc from the HDMI  from the TV.  After more research I purchased these that based on what they have stated and read will work.

Amazon.com: ARC HDMI Extender 4K@60Hz 4:4:4 Over Cat5e/6/6a/7 Cable up to...

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2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

Re: Smart TV to Sound System in IH-45

Reply #28 –
Quote from: turbojack –
Well the extender balm's that I purchased were the wrong ones for sending the audio back to the receiver via arc from the HDMI  from the TV.  After more research I purchased these that based on what they have stated and read will work.

Amazon.com: ARC HDMI Extender 4K@60Hz 4:4:4 Over Cat5e/6/6a/7 Cable up to...
. That is exactly what I  purchased and installed.  It did not help my issues.  Be interested to see how these units work for you.  It will let me know that I have other issues if yours work ok or at all.
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Herb and Willie
Escapees 90802
2014 IH-45 Build 6581
2002 U320 40' AGDS Build 6021 Sold
1999 U320 36' No Slides Sold
2007 Monaco Dynasty Diamond IV Sold
2005 Discovery 39 Sold
1986 20' Wilderness TT,  Died a natural death after floods, etc.
Walldog's Journeys
And Willie Said

Re: Smart TV to Sound System in IH-45

Reply #29 –
Changed out the  HDMI extenders.  Powered up and works like a charm. I have my Roku set up in the place of Sat 2. I can view Sat1, Roku, DVD player coming from the back with sound coming from the ceiling surround system. When I go to local channels on the TV, sound comes through the ceiling surround sound. Recevier is getting the sound via the ARC from TV, back to receiver. 

I guess the old extenders were going south for a while. When I use to be on local TV the sound would pop on and off.  I never got around troubleshooting that problem but that problem seems to be gone now.

Herb, maybe we need to do a phone call to verify your system is wired correctly.  PM me for my cell if interested.
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

Re: Smart TV to Sound System in IH-45

Reply #30 –
Quote from: turbojack –
Changed out the  HDMI extenders.  Powered up and works like a charm. I have my Roku set up in the place of Sat 2. I can view Sat1, Roku, DVD player coming from the back with sound coming from the ceiling surround system. When I go to local channels on the TV, sound comes through the ceiling surround sound. Recevier is getting the sound via the ARC from TV, back to receiver. 

I guess the old extenders were going south for a while. When I use to be on local TV the sound would pop on and off.  I never got around troubleshooting that problem but that problem seems to be gone now.

Herb, maybe we need to do a phone call to verify your system is wired correctly.  PM me for my cell if interested.

Sent you a PM.  Thanks
Herb and Willie
Escapees 90802
2014 IH-45 Build 6581
2002 U320 40' AGDS Build 6021 Sold
1999 U320 36' No Slides Sold
2007 Monaco Dynasty Diamond IV Sold
2005 Discovery 39 Sold
1986 20' Wilderness TT,  Died a natural death after floods, etc.
Walldog's Journeys
And Willie Said

Re: Smart TV to Sound System in IH-45

Reply #31 –
Quote from: Herb Stark –
I replaced the 12 year old 47 inch Panasonic TV in the front of IH-45 with a new Samsung OLED 55 inch.  It fit snug but looks great and plays great.  My old eyes enjoy it very much.  There was only one HDMI Cable going somewhere from the Dropdown ceiling mount, so we connected it to the HDMI ARC and turned the sound system on back in the back.  No JOY.  The sound system works very well playing a local FM station.  Great sound from speakers all over the coach.  So today I decided to track down the way that Foretravel hooked the TV at the Front windshield to the Integra DTR-30.4 Receiver in the closet in the rear of the coach.  In the drawing that Foretravel furnished for my build number which is probably for a different location for the Living room TV since it refers to a cabinet below the Living Room TV.  I found a panel above the windshield that is removable.  Once removed I was able to see what the HDMi cable was connected to.  Strapped to a support behind the removable panel was a HDMI Extender Receiver with a Data Cable running somewhere.  The Data Cable was labeled "LRTV 63 Data".  So I went to the back closet and found the HDMI Extender Transmitter with a short HDMI Cable and the other end of the LRTV 63 Data Cable which was a CAT 5 or 6.  The short HDMI cable was not connected.  So I assumed it would need to get into the Integra DTR-30.4 which powers the speakers in the coach.  I found an HDMI ARC receptacle that was open, so I connected it there. I made sure that power was supplied to the HDMI Extender transmitter.  I then went back up front and checked the TV.  The Samsung Smart TV now recognized the DTR-30.4 by model number and it became an option for TV Sound which I selected but was disappointed to find that no TV sound came out to the speakers.  I checked the manual for the TE HDMI Extender System and it showed a connection from a TV HDMI ARC to an audio surround receiver HDMI ARC.

So it appears that I now have:
1.  a connection from Samsung TV ARC to the DTR-30.4 Receiver ARC.
2. I am able to select the DTR-30.4 as an option for Sound output from the Samsung TV
3. The DTR-30.4 has buttons to select several options, AM, FM, others, and one for TV.

However I am not able to get TV Sound out of the receiver even though the FM and AM buttons work. I have not tried the CD Player that is mounted above the receiver, but it probably works also, but NO TV.

Maybe someone here has replaced their TV and can assist with some things to check.

AN UPDATE:
I replaced the HDMI Exterders with the same units the Turbjack used.  I still did not show a connection to the DTR-30.4 Integra Receiver in the rear closet.  I knew that I had checked and or changed some parameters on the individual inputs to the receiver.  I reread the manual for the receiver carefully and started checking the settings.  I actually used the old TV as a monitor by standing it up on its side in the rear closet.  By doing this, I could clearly see the settings for each input.  In reading the manual I found that most of the inputs should not be assigned to a specific HDMI input.  There are 7 inputs label HDMI 1 through HDMI 7.  Since the Blu-ray Player was connected eventually to HDMI 1, I had selected that input in the parameters for BD/DVD input.  However the manual shows that no HDMI port should be selected and the HDMI connection should be left blank, stating the if selected, It cannot be used for any other input.  So I deleted the selection under BD/DVD for HDMI 1 leaving a series of dots signifying no specific HDMI port.  At this point I checked the operation and miraculously I have video from the Blu-ray player going to my TV and I also have sound from my TV going to the receiver and thus to the surround sound speakers.  As a bonus, when I turn the TV on, it also turns the DTR-30.4 Integra Receiver on and a menu comes up on the TV.  I then press Home on my Samsung TV remote and I have TV with Surround Sound.  When I turn off the TV with my Samsung Remote, both the TV and DTR-30.4 go off.  Perfect!!

I wish to thank this forum and especially Turbojack for guidance and suggestions.  My takeaway is to RTFB and believe it.
Herb and Willie
Escapees 90802
2014 IH-45 Build 6581
2002 U320 40' AGDS Build 6021 Sold
1999 U320 36' No Slides Sold
2007 Monaco Dynasty Diamond IV Sold
2005 Discovery 39 Sold
1986 20' Wilderness TT,  Died a natural death after floods, etc.
Walldog's Journeys
And Willie Said