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Engine shut itself off

On my 2020 IC37, we drove over 5 hours with zero problems. We arrived at the campsite and when I stepped out to check our location to the utilities, the engine shut down as I was walking back around to the entry door. Once I got back in it wouldn't start. The ring around the start button would flash yellow or green, but nothing happened when I pushed it. The main hall panel shows all batteries above 13V and no error messages. The generator was running, there is plenty of fuel and DEF and there were no dash messages all day. After a few tries I decided to replace the key fob battery and it fired up. I understand it not starting if the fob battery was low, but would it shut down?  Has anyone experienced a problem like this?
Thanks
2020 Foretravel IC37
2022 Wrangler Unlimited High Altitude

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Reply #1
I can't ever imagine that there would be a shutdown interlock due to a KeyFob low battery.  Not wanting to start with a low KeyFob, yes, but shutdown after its running no.

Is that 13V the chassis batteries or the coach batteries?  Low chassis battery voltage could cause an issue.
2000 / 36' / U320 / WTFE
WildEBeest / "Striving to put right what once went wrong"

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Reply #2
Low coolant level or other sensor. High temp can cause a 30 second half power and then shut down. Can shut down at idle also.

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Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #3
Maybe see if it will start from the engine compartment to get you rolling,worked for me once.
Ron & Bette Ringhand previous/1979 33 ft appollo/ 1993 gv u240/ 2003 40ft beaver Marquis/1993 gv u300 40 ft

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Reply #4
All chassis and house batteries were reading normal. Coolant is completely full. I just started it again and no problems. The engine temps all day were in the normal range of 189-202, so there was no chance of overheating. Everything seems fine now, but the only thing I've changed is the fob battery. I just can't fathom that was why the engine shut itself down.
2020 Foretravel IC37
2022 Wrangler Unlimited High Altitude

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Reply #5
Since we have been dragged into the key fob generation (kicking and screaming I might add) it might be a fair question to ask a technical person if this is common...... the yellow and green lights might mean something. These key fobs can do some funny things and nowadays I've got a pocket full of them..
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Lynn & Marilyn Sickel
Tollville, AR
1997  U320  40'
2021 Chevrolet Silverado pickup
Motorcader  17257

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Reply #6
This key fob thing has really got my curiosity up even though it's a 100% chance I will never have a motorhome that has one. We have three vehicles that have the darn things and they all react differently when you have to start the vehicle. I am curious as to if the entry door might have been left open and that sent a signal to kill the engine or if the brake was not applied and that kept it from restarting. It could be a number of different things. Also, if you ever damage a key fob, it costs about $400 to replace it...... I got battery acid on one and took about 3 days to get a new one.
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Lynn & Marilyn Sickel
Tollville, AR
1997  U320  40'
2021 Chevrolet Silverado pickup
Motorcader  17257

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Reply #7
On my 2020 IC37, we drove over 5 hours with zero problems. We arrived at the campsite and when I stepped out to check our location to the utilities, the engine shut down as I was walking back around to the entry door. Once I got back in it wouldn't start. The ring around the start button would flash yellow or green, but nothing happened when I pushed it. The main hall panel shows all batteries above 13V and no error messages. The generator was running, there is plenty of fuel and DEF and there were no dash messages all day. After a few tries I decided to replace the key fob battery and it fired up. I understand it not starting if the fob battery was low, but would it shut down?  Has anyone experienced a problem like this?
Thanks
This would be a great question for foretavel tech support.  It all depends on how they programed the keyless start to work. It could be setup to turn off the engine if the fob goes out of range.
1991 U300 Side Aisle 6V92 Silver #3897
2004 U320 40' #6246

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Reply #8
There should be a code stored on the engine ECM for a shut down event.
Best to find out why, so it doesn't happen at a worse time.
John Fitzgerald
1991 U300 (SAI) Side Aisle Island Bed 40'
Detroit 6V92 with Allison Retarder
Meridian (Boise), Idaho

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Reply #9
Not familiar with the 2020 but the dash may give you the error code for reason of shutting down.
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

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Reply #10
After speaking to Spartan tech support, I learned that 3 amber flashes on the start button means the air system is too low; 3 green flashes means chassis batteries are too low. This is good to know but it doesn't explain the shutdown. However, I replaced one very weak chassis battery and haven't had any problems since, so I'm not going to worry about it any more.
2020 Foretravel IC37
2022 Wrangler Unlimited High Altitude

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Reply #11
Fredbrew2, Do you have the bypass ignition key for your coach.  If your push button start doesn't work,  you plug this bypass in and you can start the coach.  If you don't have on yet I would call Foretravel parts and get one.  I think they are around  $200+. If Foretravel don't stoch, call Spartan.  I have the part number somewhere and if you need it I will start searching where I put it.  I know it was a safe spot,  but don't remember now.
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago

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Reply #12
Found it. Part No:*S-2771-001 Part Name:*KIT, SERVICE PKS OVERRIDE this is Spartan part#
2014 ih45  (4th Foretravel owned)
 1997 36' U295 Sold in 2020, owned for 19 years
  U240 36' Sold to insurance company after melting in garage fire
    33' Foretravel on Dodge Chassis  Sold very long time ago