Re: iC-37 Reply #125 – January 10, 2019, 01:19:43 pm I saw that in those outside pics but it said rear door and that is a mid door and for an emergency exit should NOT have n obsticle in front of it to climb over. That is a usual safety requirement, but, I guess if the front is on fire at least some way to get out. Not a big selling point to older ,larger people I would think.JohnH Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #126 – January 10, 2019, 01:22:01 pm Does anyone know what kind of combo washer that is? It looks much larger then a splendide, and I'm in the market for one to replace my 2000. Beautiful coach for sure, great job Foretravel. Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #127 – January 10, 2019, 01:48:06 pm Quote from: John Haygarth – January 10, 2019, 01:19:43 pmand for an emergency exit should NOT have an obstacle in front of it to climb over.Yaahhh......but in a way, it is kinda nice to be able to sit down on the toilet with your legs hanging out the door and then be able to push your way out from the sitting position. For older, less physically capable folks, I imagine this seems like a slightly more appealing option than telling them to back out of a window on their shins. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: iC-37 Reply #128 – January 10, 2019, 01:52:37 pm Quote from: saddlesore – January 09, 2019, 09:51:22 pmI understand that there are 2 floor plans???On page 15 of this link it shows both currently available floor plans:http://www.foretravel.com/documents/Foretravel-2020-Product-Guide.pdfHope I got the url right this time! Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #129 – January 10, 2019, 01:54:54 pm Quote from: John Haygarth – January 10, 2019, 12:51:56 pmDid anyone notice the macerator toilet and HWH hydraulic jacks on this unit? They mention a rear exit door but I do not see it? Oh and prewired for solar, most proberbly just wire as stated.JohnH Maybe the macerator toilet is the reason the second floorpan has the toilet and shower sides reversed. I also noticed the HWH jacks. The chassis comes with air leveling, but it is not very effective. I suspect due to the lack of outboard air bags.I also noticed the wheelbase is much shorter than on my same-length 2003 U295. Must be a Spartan chassis limitation. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: iC-37 Reply #130 – January 10, 2019, 04:25:43 pm Quote from: OffTheGridRVs – January 10, 2019, 01:22:01 pmDoes anyone know what kind of combo washer that is? It looks much larger then a splendide, and I'm in the market for one to replace my 2000. Beautiful coach for sure, great job Foretravel.This coach has Whirlpool front load washer in the center closet and dryer unit in the driver side closet. The follow-on models will have stacked washer and dryers in the center closet to give you more closet space. Foretravel is also going to sliding panel doors for the center and driver side rear closet instead of cabinet doors. You will see this on the floor plans they have illustrated on page 15 of the 2020 Product Brochure. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: iC-37 Reply #131 – January 10, 2019, 08:38:29 pm Thank you Oscar & Janet, that's why the washer looks so big. Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #132 – January 11, 2019, 07:43:41 am Saw that it had a 24k rear axle rating. I wonder how that will fly on some of the toll roads. Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #133 – January 11, 2019, 07:55:48 am Quote from: John S – January 11, 2019, 07:43:41 amSaw that it had a 24k rear axle rating. I wonder how that will fly on some of the toll roads.Never heard of someone getting in to check the plate. Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #134 – January 11, 2019, 09:19:25 am Is the rating an issue or the actual weight? Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #135 – January 11, 2019, 09:39:28 am Quote from: Caflashbob – January 11, 2019, 09:19:25 amIs the rating an issue or the actual weight?Bridge Formula Weights- FHWA Freight Management and OperationsSome states have "weigh while moving" scales. Not sure if any one enforces the 20000 lb limit. Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #136 – January 11, 2019, 10:10:35 am I think this change in the law takes care of those concerns:"Change in Law for Motor Home Axle Weight on National Network Highways Effective October 1, 2012In 2011, Congress passed the Moving Ahead towards Progress in the 21st Century Act (MAP-21; Public Law 112-141), which re-authorized U.S. transportation programs, including those for highway and bridge building, maintenance and improvement. As part of that bill, the Recreation Vehicle Industry Association (RVIA), with the help of the Indiana Congressional delegation, was successful in obtaining an exception to the federal law that limits vehicle weight on roads and bridges (the "bridge formula.") The amendment provides an exception, which is the same as the bus industry has had for several years, that permits motorhomes to carry up to 24,000 lbs. on a single axle (previously limited to 20,000 lbs.).Sec. 1522 of MAP-21requires that states, effective October 1, 2012, allow any motorhome equipped with the new axle weight to travel on the National Network (NN) of highways, which includes interstate highways and state-designated routes that provide reasonable access for travelers to food, fuel, repairs and rest.Title 23 United States Code Section 127 provides the permanent bus and motorhome axle weight exception as follows:(1) Exemption. - The second sentence of section 127 of title 23, United States Code, relating to axle weight limitations for vehicles using the Dwight D. Eisenhower System of Interstate and Defense Highways, shall not apply to -(A) any over-the-road bus (as defined in section 301 of the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990 (42 U.S.C. 12181)); (B) any vehicle that is regularly and exclusively used as an intrastate public agency transit passenger bus ; or(C) any motor home (as defined in section 571.3 of title 49, Code of Federal Regulations (or successor regulation)).(2) State action. -(A) Weight limitations. - A covered State, including any political subdivision of such State, may not enforce a single axle weight limitation of less than 24,000 pounds, including enforcement tolerances, on any vehicle referred to in paragraph (1) in any case in which the vehicle is using the Interstate System.(B) Covered state defined. - In this paragraph, the term 'covered State' means a State that has enforced, in the period beginning on October 6, 1992, and ending on the date of enactment of this subparagraph [Nov. 30, 2005], a single axle weight limitation of 20,000 pounds or greater but less than 24,000 pounds, including enforcement tolerances, on any vehicle referred to in paragraph (1) in any case in which the vehicle is using the Interstate System. " Quote Selected 6 Likes
Re: iC-37 Reply #137 – January 11, 2019, 02:18:45 pm Thanks everyone for the current info. I see that the 24,000 has allowed Foretravel to not need a tag on the IC 37. The 228" WB will turn from a single lane road on each side onto another single lane road without crossing over the center lines.It's close but those owners do not have to wait for the intersection to clear. Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #138 – January 12, 2019, 10:35:38 am Just read this entire topic. Being a "new" model, didn't have much interest. Haven't read all the details given in the specs either. After seeing some of the pictures that have been posted told my wife I may have found my next coach. Her first words were " you mean OUR next coach." When she asked the price, she said "keep dreaming". My reply. in 2-3 years the used price will be just about right. One thing that I did notice was no transmission retarder. I love my retarder. Might have difficulty getting used to a Jake brake. I guess I have a couple of years to prepare.Larry Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: iC-37 Reply #139 – January 12, 2019, 02:13:40 pm It remains to be seen how well the IC-37 drives. The wheelbase is much shorter than my 2003 38' U295. Great for turning radius, not so for drivability.As much as i love my retarder, I could get used to a 2-stage Jake. The retarder requires more attention than the Jake, watching the transmission temperature on a VmsPC or similar to prevent overheating. I would prefer to have both my 6-stage retarder and a light duty exhaust or heavy duty engine brake. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: iC-37 Reply #140 – January 12, 2019, 02:20:47 pm Tom, that would make for one nice combination. Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #141 – January 12, 2019, 02:41:24 pm I have never looked into it, but have heard that adding an exhaust brake would be a relatively simple task. Maybe not too expensive. Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #142 – January 12, 2019, 02:50:09 pm Neighbor has a 2013 Tour with the 450/1250 and jake and he says it works well up and down hills. Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #143 – January 19, 2019, 12:57:32 pm Spartan, Foretravel Unveil 'Iron Colt' In Tampa - News ArchivesNice coverage Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #144 – January 19, 2019, 01:38:03 pm Quote from: Tom Lang – January 12, 2019, 02:41:24 pmI have never looked into it, but have heard that adding an exhaust brake would be a relatively simple task. Maybe not too expensive.Multi-stage engine compression brake (aka Jake brake) is superior to an exhaust brake and is standard equipment. Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #145 – January 19, 2019, 02:08:14 pm Jake brakes work great. No overheating. Easy peasy. Retarders are more fun though.jor Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #146 – January 24, 2019, 02:13:36 pm Saw the IC 37 in Nov coming down the line, told me IC stood for Iron Colt. Showed real nice at Tampa, hope they sell a bunch. From what I heard they sold the I H at the show! John Quote Selected
Re: iC-37 Reply #147 – January 24, 2019, 03:01:29 pm Yes, they sold the ih-45 showcoach at the show on Thursday of the show. What was really nice to see was the 3-slide layout of the ic-37. Very nicely done and am anxious to see one completed. Quote Selected