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appointment @ RnR Spokane

Finally got the Caterham and it's car trailer sold & bought an old Subaru to replace it. So! Now that all of that is done. Time to fix the Aqua Hot. Off to RnR on the 22nd of July.

I really, really hope my coach is done throwing temper tantrums. I could use a bit of good fortune. Bought the coach in October 2015 and repairs have cost us $19 coach bucks so far. (to include the upcoming AH rebuild) Yikes $2100 per month :'(
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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Reply #1
Best wishes coming at you, BD.  You deserve them.
Roger Engdahl and Susan Green
2001 U320 3610 #5879 (Home2) - 2014 Jeep Cherokee or 2018 F150
Hastings, MN

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Reply #2
I really, really hope my coach is done throwing temper tantrums. I could use a bit of good fortune. Bought the coach in October 2015 and repairs have cost us $19 coach bucks so far. (to include the upcoming AH rebuild) Yikes $2100 per month :'(

Sorry to hear that! Hopefully you will soon have everything repaired that requires big bucks and you'll be able to simply enjoy your
motorhome. . . .
David and Carolyn Osborn
1995 U320C SE 40' Build 4726 Feb 1995
FMCA 147762
Motorcade 17186

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Reply #3
I really, really hope my coach is done throwing temper tantrums. I could use a bit of good fortune.

I'd say, you're coming full circle with problems. Let us know how the outlet in Spokane treats you, + pics of the gathering!
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
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Reply #4
Hi Big Dog,

R&R should treat you OK as they have always done for me.  I too hope that you are finally at then end of a seemingly endless disaster trail!!
Just off to Missoula with my FT to use as a hotel while I get a new hip and become a bionic man!!  Its not only coaches that wear our??
Speedbird 1.
2001 U320 Build #5865
Daihatsu Rocky Toad
VW Touareg
'82 F100 Stepside
Beech' Debonair

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Reply #5

  Its not only coaches that wear our??
Speedbird 1.

So true. My brain was due for a rebuild long ago.

All the best and prayers coming your way for your surgery.


Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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Reply #6
So true. My brain was due for a rebuild long ago.

One of those great pithy lines we "explorers of the sixties" liked was, "Brain damage is what we were after, the chromosome damage was just gravy."  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #7
Just dropped off the coach on Friday. Will be in the shop for 4 weeks. Yikes! They sure don't move very fast, As long as the job is done right then that's OK.

Bought a used 16Ft car trailer from a fellow retired Air Force guy in Idaho that same evening.



Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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Reply #8
4 weeks, yikes.  What are they going to do to it besides the Aquahot??

Thanks for the wishes re surgery, all went well and I fear that the brain may be next!!!!

Speedbird 1.
2001 U320 Build #5865
Daihatsu Rocky Toad
VW Touareg
'82 F100 Stepside
Beech' Debonair

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Reply #9
I have no idea why so long. When i made the appointment several weeks ago I was told two weeks. The only other thing that is being done is wiring in a brake controller (tekonsha P3) and updating the pig tail from 6 pin to a 7 pin, But that can be done while the AH is in Colorado.

What's so bad about 4 weeks is that the wife works for the Army Corps of Engineering contracting office and September into early October is the end of fiscal year accounting madness and there is zero time off. (with a death in the family or grave illness being the only exceptions for time off) So that pretty much ends the wife and I RV'ing together for the 2016 season. She may have to buckle under and let me go by my self during September.

Congrats on the successful surgery. You will no doubt be running circles around everyone and kicking some butt very soon. How long are you grounded from flying?

Also, Had no idea that while we were watching the bad weather from my friends deck that we were seeing the remnants of a (minor) tornado that had touched down by the Air Base.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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Reply #10
4 Weeks?  Good gawd Gertie!

Afraid to ask how long it would take them to do a slide bladder....
'02 40' U320t  4010WTFS Build 6036 1 slide
Motorcade # 17841
SKP 151920
Retired truck driver
 5 million miler
Still have itchy feet for travel

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Reply #11
Just dropped off the coach on Friday. Will be in the shop for 4 weeks. Yikes! They sure don't move very fast,

Double yikes!  At least you can book back to Wally World, imagine how much fun it would be for us full-timers.  :'(
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #12
Yes Mike. For a full timer four weeks would be a nightmare.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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And here is the sort of thing that gets me VERY riled up.

Just called RnR Liberty Lake, Wa. to see how the diagnosis of the AH went. The coach as been in their possession for a week (as of today) I was informed that it hasn't been touched yet and they SHOULD get to it any day now.

Goes hand in hand with the thread about the RV industry waking up.  From my point of view NO it hasn't. They have this rather government mentality about every thing they do. As in, They set up an appointment that really isn't an appointment. Once they have your RV they just push it into the corner and get to it when they want to. Not when it was scheduled.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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Reply #14
Big Dog,

That is not acceptable at all.  Nothing like the service I have had over there.

Keith Woodruff is the service manager and you need to give him a big push!! kwoodruff@r n r r v.com

Speedbird1.
2001 U320 Build #5865
Daihatsu Rocky Toad
VW Touareg
'82 F100 Stepside
Beech' Debonair

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I feel a bit backed into a corner. When I called for the appointment the soonest they could get me in was two weeks later (July 22nd). I fear that if I just went to RnR to retrieve it and take it else where. It would end up taking long enough to get an appointment, get it there than it will take the RnR bunch to finally finish up. If I complain to RnR I'm sure it would be put on an even slower road to repair. Not very good service for an expected bill of 10 coach bucks.

What gets me is that if they were not going to be able to get to it till the first week of August. Then why didn't they just make an appointment for that time. My wife canceled a dental appointment and took holiday time to follow my in the car to get the coach to Spokane and have a way of getting back home.

Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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Reply #16
Having worked on the other end of this conversation, s*** happens. One of the projects in front of you probably had a set back and they can't just stop working on it to start on your repair. When they make an appointment and the shop is busy they try to guess how long the repairs will take that are ahead of you. Once they start on yours they won't stop working on it to satisfy a customer that is behind you. From the customers point of view everything should be started and finished by the estimate, it just doesn't always work that way.
 I hope they can maybe make up a little time working on yours and keep you satisfied.
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prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Having worked on the other end of this conversation, s*** happens. One of the projects in front of you probably had a set back and they can't just stop working on it to start on your repair. When they make an appointment and the shop is busy they try to guess how long the repairs will take that are ahead of you. Once they start on yours they won't stop working on it to satisfy a customer that is behind you. From the customers point of view everything should be started and finished by the estimate, it just doesn't always work that way.
 I hope they can maybe make up a little time working on yours and keep you satisfied.

They did offer to put me ahead of some other people. I said no way should others suffer because of their business practices. According to this shop, It should take one day or less to remove the AH unit & the same to reinstall. 

In my 10 years of owning a trucking company I was never told to just drop off one of my trucks and they would get to it when they could. I called and told them what was wrong, made an appointment, Took the truck in and they fixed it.

My greater point being that they never told me that my appointment was just to see a guy about an appointment and that the coach would go into some sort of rotation scheme.

I had called the AH guy that is across the street from the AH factory in Colorado. He said three to four days from the time I arrive to the time I could leave. But I called this dealer in Washington and was told two weeks. I thought that was reasonable and the cost would be nearly the same. The guy in Colorado was cheaper by a $1,000 but with fuel to drive the coach out there, Meals, a few days in a hotel due to no water on board. I figured that a local shop would be good. It was the fact that the shop here in Washington didn't bother to even explain the process. (As ridiculous as it is) So that I could in the end make an informed decision about going to Colorado (or not) for the fix. As the shorter turn around would then help me to appease the DW's new found disdain for RV's by perhaps taking a couple of short trips before winterizing. 
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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Reply #18
We almost took our coach there for a slide seal replacement, but ultimately took it to HWH. So now I am glad we didn't deal with RnR. Thanks for your post, sorry about all of your delays and problems.
Royce & Denise, MC #17410
'01 U320 4220 ISM450 Build #5895 SOLD
Toad: '10 Honda CR-V

Travel makes one modest. You see what a tiny place you occupy in the world. - Gustave Flaubert

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Reply #19
  help me to appease the DW's new found disdain for RV's 

Pithy saying #103: "This too will pass".  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #20
Pithy saying #103: "This too will pass".  ^.^d


That's what the DW's Dr. said about her stones. :))

Once we get a couple of good trips in our rear view mirrors and the fire in our checking account has been extinguished. I'm sure her enthusiasm will return.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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Reply #21
bigdog, why do you not take it out and send to Colorado. There is nothing to taking them out and draining. Install is as simple too. Did a friends a year ago and it was my first. Changed out circuit board as well. Simple, just a bit awkward.
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
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treat everyone as you would like to be.

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Reply #22
For the same reason I didn't build my house. I don't mind doing small jobs and tinkering but I don't have a covered shop to use and I don't even have a paved pad to work at.  I have no desire to crawl back underneath a truck (I've owned three 18 wheelers) dragging heavy dirty junk around in 100 degree heat in the dirt.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

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Reply #23
  I don't mind doing small jobs and tinkering but I don't have a covered shop

I don't think that's the point. I watched my neighbor try to service his AH himself, he finally gave up after dinking around for weeks.
Some people are smart at some things, others (like me) are willing to pay for a job done right, on time.
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
                                      Build # 4297
                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #24
are willing to pay for a job done right.??? Mike quote.

I like to do as much as possible so I know it is done right. That is my point and working on an A Hot is not really dirty and greasy. Very simple and to replace parts is the same-simple. If burner has a hole etc then you replace it or weld it if possible. Some places these are put does make it awkward but really no different than taking out a rad from car.
I have done it out of a CCoach for friend.
JohnH
Coachless, now use aircraft. 2003 Ford Travelair TC280 class C. Super shape. Just for 1 yr .
1994 Ford E350 ClassC,total renovation inside and out. Now sold.
2000 U295  36' Cummins 350 c/w Banks Stinger, Resonator upgrade,Solar, LED lites.Residential fridge with slide out pantry. Build 5674. Sold
ex 92 GV 022C ored Cummins. Sold
ex 95 GV240 cat 3116. Sold
2017 Mini cooper s & 2016 land Rover LR2 HSE  LUX.
jhaygarth@aol.com    SKP #130098
treat everyone as you would like to be.