Re: Replacement options for Prosine, plus solar (split from Re: Prosine 2.5 Inverter Help)
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What exact misinformation is in this thread? I researched this three years ago heavily.
At the same time my local rv repair dealer and my buddy both had removed inverter/Charger units I was recycling for them with the inverter man.
A dozen units brought in for evaluation and either repair or purchase by them over five years allowed me to see what they were fixing and ask questions.
Lack of parts caused a large percentage of removed units to be scrap.
Magnum told me today that they offer circuit board repairs through them. Three boards in their machine.
No bias at all. If I were a remote off grid home owner I had the right equipment in my hands with 2 4024 magnum inverters that tested perfect in front of me. Or dual outback's mounted in a outback metal casing with 200 amps of circuit breakers that was new.
Inquired at visione about the lower battery slide out rack from their in stock 97 U320 and figured out that I could replace the existing single battery top rack with the removed 97 bottom rack if I moved the wiring and fuze link to the other side of the wall into the main bay where the heart freedom 25 was mounted.
But in our actual use the three new 8g8d my gels had enough capacity for our uses as we are not an all electric coach and we replaced our lighting to leds including the fluorescents in the ceiling.
My inverter guy showed me most brands insides and most have fairly small internal contactors for transferring power which is probably why foretravel used external ATS systems.
We disconnected one of ours and used the hearts internal relay instead.
Less clunking, less humming.
So I could have installed a single or dual 4024 system with a transformer to reduce to 12 volt.
Or a dual or single outback setup I had in my hands and bought a solar controller.
My x foretravel tech had a new 2012 magnum with auto gen start and the remote panel for $1,300 installed.
But I wanted the 125 amp charging versus the 100 from the 2012.
The Victron was not as integrated 3 years ago. Plus no info on internal construction and parts availability.
Only two ,for sure, that were known reliable and parts available for and two local repair and installers available that I knew personally were the very good quality outback and the magnums.
So versus me being the tester I sold the inverters to the inverter man and gave my buddies their 50% back of the money generated and had my guru install the magnum, battery temp sensor, remote panel without gen start as my gen does not support remote glow plug starting and a "fuel" gauge which duplicates some of the remote panels function.
At that time the Victron did and does not have the specific settings for a lifeline set of agms if I wanted them in the future and no way to equalize the same batteries if they should require that in the future.
At that time the Victron did not have the now available "learning" mode that some of their units now offer whereas the magnum already had this technology.
The difference between the magnums iron core transformer being better able to overcome voltage spikes versus a toroidal transformer is beyond my pay grade but may account for the 13 pound heavier weight of the 2812.
It came down to known long term repair and parts availability and a higher internal transfer capacity, more watts available, a learning panel, a dual AGM mode, ability to charge from either 120 or 240 volts on a 120 volt unit, quieter operation, ability to turn the charger off and still have power as the boat guy mentioned and being made in the USA was important parts of this.
Had not heard about the non UL stuff. A plug in device being non UL is not a big deal but an installed wired in non disconnect able major electrical device may well be.
I think I read in my coach insurance policy that all electrical stuff was required to be UL or NRTL approved.
If a failure occurred and a non UL system was the cause and found I would bet heavily that the insurance would not pay.
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