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Re: WARNING, WARNING, WARNING!!!

Reply #50
What is the process to install a new freeze plug?  Need to clean out the edges, how to press in, etc?
Clean the hole, find a socket that just fits inside the freeze plug drive it in. I use never seize instead of silicone, most use silicone. If it is in a difficult location there are flexible drivers, I don't know where mine went. They also sell expandable plugs made out of brass and rubber ones like thermos stoppers with a bolt in the middle.
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Reply #51
Rick

Who is the "best shop in clearwater?" Always looking for a good reference.
Rick and Wendy Green
1998 U270 3600 The Coach Formerly known as Princess
Build# 5336
2007 Ford Explorer

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Reply #52
Rick

Who is the "best shop in clearwater?" Always looking for a good reference.
Pinellas Diesel
Rick Barna
St. Petersburg FL.
1998 U270 36'
Build # 5232
1972 CJ 5 Jeep

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Reply #53
Does your coach get towed south or a ride on a lowboy?
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Reply #54
I put the freeze plugs in the freezer overnight and the next day have everything cleaned and laying there ready to go.  Get the freeze plug out of the freezer and go directly out and drive it in.
Steve

1997 U270 36' build 5179
Motorcade #18147
1980 CJ5

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Reply #55
I put the freeze plugs in the freezer overnight and the next day have everything cleaned and laying there ready to go.  Get the freeze plug out of the freezer and go directly out and drive it in.

That's how I do bearing races and also warm up where they go.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Reply #57

Good, with all the fun your having, I did not want Bubba's Towing to just pull the driveshaft!
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
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                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'


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Reply #59
Good, with all the fun your having, I did not want Bubba's Towing to just pull the driveshaft!
I,m sorry i was wrong they pulled the axles and towed it to FL. Triple a paid for part of the tow and I paid $1900 to get it back to Clearwater FL.
Rick Barna
St. Petersburg FL.
1998 U270 36'
Build # 5232
1972 CJ 5 Jeep

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Reply #60
Well it looks as though I am going to drop in a complete new engine (reman) while I am at it I probably will replace the radiator if there is any thing at all wrong with it. Also I will redo all of the insulation in the engine compartment. A new (reman) engine is $12600 with a two year parts and labor guarantee on the engine. Labor will be about 30 to 40 hrs. give or take.
Rick Barna
St. Petersburg FL.
1998 U270 36'
Build # 5232
1972 CJ 5 Jeep

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Reply #61
I,m sorry i was wrong they pulled the axles and towed it to FL. Triple a paid for part of the tow and I paid $1900 to get it back to Clearwater FL

Pricey, but at least the axles were pulled and the oil sealers were installed. Keep in touch, we're interested.  ^.^d
1993 U-240 "La Villa Grande"..CAT 3116 w/ Pacbrake PRXB...Allison 3060 6-speed..
Previous: 1983 Airstream 310 turbo diesel, 1979 Airstream 280 turbo diesel
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                                      PNW natives
                      Home base:  'Cactus Hug' (Ajo, Arizona)
                        DW Judy & Chet the wonder dog
                        Full-Timers 'Sailing the asphalt sea'

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Reply #62
Sorry for you issue. Would you post what they determine actually caused the engine failure when they find out?
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Reply #63
Sorry for you issue. Would you post what they determine actually caused the engine failure when they find out?
Yes, it would be good to know exactly what caused the damage. Internal component failure causing a block failure with coolant loss or a freeze plug failure with the damage done because of overheating? The cause might give us a clue of what to look for.

And yes, I think we are all bummed for what happened to you. Very bummed.

Pierce

Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

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Reply #64
Yes, it would be good to know exactly what caused the damage. Internal component failure causing a block failure with coolant loss or a freeze plug failure with the damage done because of overheating? The cause might give us a clue of what to look for.

And yes, I think we are all bummed for what happened to you. Very bummed.

Pierce


Rick Barna
St. Petersburg FL.
1998 U270 36'
Build # 5232
1972 CJ 5 Jeep


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Reply #66
Rick....Ask the seller of the reman motor about the "core charge" Generally if a core is bad ie:"cracked" block they may do a charge back.

(Sold many remans (automotive) in the last 40 years.

Good Luck

Hans
Hans & Marjet
1995 U300 "Ben" (#4719)
3176B Cat,4060HD,Jake
SKP#139131
Motorcade#17579
2006 Honda Element (towed)

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Reply #67
Is that the 500 hp engine you were talking about?
1994 U280, Build 4490
Deming, NM.

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Reply #68
Rick....Ask the seller of the reman motor about the "core charge" Generally if a core is bad ie:"cracked" block they may do a charge back.

(Sold many remans (automotive) in the last 40 years.

Good Luck

Hans

$2500 core charge ....Cracked block will cost $1,250, & a bad crank is worth $1,250. They do a workaround when they get the core back, if there are no visible cracks and the crank will still turn, I will get my core charge back. As far as we can tell there are no visible cracks and the engine will run, but a make a lot of noise, also there is water in the oil.
Rick Barna
St. Petersburg FL.
1998 U270 36'
Build # 5232
1972 CJ 5 Jeep

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Reply #69
Is that the 500 hp engine you were talking about?


I wish it were that easy.
Rick Barna
St. Petersburg FL.
1998 U270 36'
Build # 5232
1972 CJ 5 Jeep

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Reply #70
If you are changing out the radiator do the transmission cooler as well.
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Reply #71
Often the shop will pay for the tow if the bill  estimate is substantial.

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Reply #72
Freeze plugs.. huh.  Thanks for the warning.  When we lost a hydraulic hose which was an unbelievable mess it covered the rear view camera in an oil film and blurred the vision.  This is an easy thing to look for.  Our oil didn't touch exhaust components, but just simply sprayed out at high pressure all over the cold side of the engine area.

I'm still trying to clean that up.

I'd imagine routinely checking your coolant level could be good.  For instance we've had a substantial pickup in coolant loss and it looks like it's from a silicone coupler but worth hunting further!

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Reply #73
If the whole freeze plug came out it was probably from an overpressure event, maybe  caused by some other failure. My 71 Ford pickup has the originals. Could have been incorrectly installed at the factory, doubtful though.
Old Phart Phred, EIEIO
89 GV ored 36' #3405 300 hp cat 3208 ATAAC side radiator, mountain tamer exhaust brake

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Reply #74
Freeze plugs.. huh.  Thanks for the warning.  When we lost a hydraulic hose which was an unbelievable mess it covered the rear view camera in an oil film and blurred the vision.  This is an easy thing to look for.  Our oil didn't touch exhaust components, but just simply sprayed out at high pressure all over the cold side of the engine area.

I'm still trying to clean that up.

I'd imagine routinely checking your coolant level could be good.  For instance we've had a substantial pickup in coolant loss and it looks like it's from a silicone coupler but worth hunting further!


Best to replace the air cleaner after that. I learned that lesson on my previous coach when a hydraulic line blew. 
Dan - Full timing since 2009
2003 U320 40' Tag 2 slide