Re: RV barn update Reply #50 – July 14, 2019, 06:38:46 pm Looks great! Brings back memories lol... Quote Selected 9 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #51 – July 15, 2019, 09:09:03 am Looks great. I have seen Susan do the same dance as Kristi is doing. It is great that you are doing this together with the help of friends. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #52 – July 15, 2019, 09:38:44 am Cuure do you have a pic of it finished? Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #53 – July 15, 2019, 11:07:08 am Sven,Are you using 4,000 PSI crete? 6 inch with wire mesh poured right will have no issues concerning weight. It really needs to be cooled with water for three days to cure before loading it. I am not sure why you would need to follow municipal codes if not listed with the secretary of State as a corporation? You can also add accelerator to the mix if you like, not much difference in cost. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #54 – July 15, 2019, 12:40:33 pm HdffHere is the finished barn. 20x40x14 Quote Selected 7 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #55 – July 15, 2019, 03:14:25 pm Quote from: cubesphere – July 15, 2019, 11:07:08 amSven,Are you using 4,000 PSI crete? 6 inch with wire mesh poured right will have no issues concerning weight. It really needs to be cooled with water for three days to cure before loading it. I am not sure why you would need to follow municipal codes if not listed with the secretary of State as a corporation? You can also add accelerator to the mix if you like, not much difference in cost.We are well past the concrete stage. We used #4 (1/2") rebar, 6" thick, 18" on the perimeter. It has cured for about a month now. It is 4000 PSI. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #57 – July 15, 2019, 03:21:21 pm With the help of a couple of friends (thanks "rbark"), we got it up in an hour and a half. Quote Selected 6 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #58 – July 15, 2019, 03:22:07 pm Quote from: Sven and Kristi – July 15, 2019, 03:21:21 pmWith the help of a couple of friends (thanks "rbark"), we got it up in an hour and a half. The foundation shot is for cubephere. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #59 – July 15, 2019, 07:12:24 pm Quote from: Sven and Kristi – July 15, 2019, 03:21:21 pmWith the help of a couple of friends (thanks "rbark"), we got it up in an hour and a half.Looking at your photo of the erected framework, I had a terrible thought. If it was me I'd have somebody remove that big old dead tree.Wouldn't want it to blow down in a storm and damage the new barn! Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #60 – July 15, 2019, 08:20:36 pm Be sure you add some bracing until the rest of the structure and roofing and siding is on.Very interesting to see Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #61 – July 16, 2019, 08:54:33 am Quote from: Chuck & Jeannie – July 15, 2019, 07:12:24 pmLooking at your photo of the erected framework, I had a terrible thought. If it was me I'd have somebody remove that big old dead tree.Wouldn't want it to blow down in a storm and damage the new barn! It has been a topic of conversation between us and the neighbor for over a year. It will cost over $2000 to remove, since they would need a boom to cut it. We may have to loan them the money to do it, or at least pay for removing the limbs on our side. As it stands, the tree has a slight lean to the opposite direction and the seasonal Santa Ana winds will also come from our side. It is also further to the rear of the structure. I was tempted to give it a push with the reach fork lift. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #62 – July 26, 2019, 11:06:55 am Some assembly required. What do you do when it is over 100 degrees and 75% humidity......wear a hat. This was taken a few days ago; I've since installed half of the "hat channels" (for laying roof panels on) and the girts on the back wall. I may have to rent the scissor lift for another week. Quote Selected 6 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #64 – September 24, 2019, 01:38:12 pm It has been a long summer with a couple of delays due to visitors, but I'm pretty much done with may part and am ready to hand it over to the stucco guys. Great having a level concrete floor which I can finally use a creeper on. Quote Selected 16 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #65 – September 24, 2019, 05:56:07 pm Great looking structure. Sounds like the normal heartache and happiness of any personal project. I did my "Barn" 4 years ago. I find concrete is much better to work on than gravel and cardboard. However, I have not used a creeper as much as I had thought I would. (Don't want grease blobs on my floor.) Most work is now catching up on 20-years of sunshine on the Gelcoat. Glad someone has already mentioned that dead tree. Immediately bothered me. My building skin and structure is a modified arched building with slanted straight sides. Taos County demanded that I carry the same snow load as the Ski Valley 20 miles away and 2,000 ft higher. Anyway, the angle of the sides presented a perfect winter capture platform to mount my solar array. I have a 12H x 14W overhead door, which is irritatingly small when backing in. (This door was tougher to position and install than erecting the building.) Insulation is fiberglass on flexible polyurethane skin/vapor barrier in 6'x12' rolls, put in place with the help of a local high school junior All-American defensive end and scaffolding. (He is now a Marine.) I use a 4" drier exhaust vent through an end wall and a 4" hose connected to the tailpipe when running the engine inside during winter. (Only used it twice.) Rather than the before-mentioned blue pills, I invited my retired firefighter brother (Firemen can do anything.) and my retired aircraft assembler sister (She's smarter than us boys, and can solve almost any problem--including arguments between me and my brother.) when it was my turn to host the family reunion again. (I had done the same trick 12 years before for our arched house shell, using them and 2 1/2 sections of scaffolding on wheels. So, perhaps my sister is not as smart as I believe she is. Again, my sister controlled the winch on the 4-wheeler to help raise each arch. As I recall, there was nearly, it seemed, 2,000 nuts and bolts connecting each arch to the adjacent one. An 18-pack helped get four arches up a day. End walls were constructed after siblings departed. 2x6s, 3/4" OSB, covered in black paper, chicken wire, and green stucco.) We live in a forest, on a road which UPS refuses to deliver; metal buildings seem a good idea to me. Judicious measurement affords proper placement of built-in storage not conflicting with those flop-open storage doors on our older models of FTs. You may wish to consider front-first and back-in positions. In my 45-foot long interior, I have a few feet to play with when I park my 36' U270 and have the engine door up. Whenever the Barn big door is open, it presents a blinking sign to my passing neighbors to stop by and see what I am doing.... Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #66 – September 24, 2019, 07:48:45 pm With the RV parked, as in the photo, I have four feet of clearance on each end. My intention is to back it in, as we did with fire engines and I intend to paint a yellow line on the floor which I will "trace" with my left tires. With some badly placed bushes and a rock out in the front, I will attempt to back it in before removing them. I have enough room to pass between the barn and house to the lower lot where I can turn around before heading back up to do the back in. Hopefully it will work. Once the stucco is done, manual sectional doors will be installed on the two larger openings. The city will install a 1" meter so that I can trench a line for the sprinkler system (not my idea), which will be installed later. Lots of "small" stuff still have to be done: Overhead LED shop lights, outlets, gravel (for now) driveway to garage, new concrete driveway for house, path for walk in door, etc, can be done in time. I'm just glad to get the rig out of the sun and have a good place to work on it. Still working on the neighbor about that tree. Quote Selected 5 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #67 – September 24, 2019, 09:04:16 pm Looks great, Sven. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #68 – September 24, 2019, 09:51:24 pm Looks great!!! I envious....... Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #69 – October 03, 2019, 10:21:50 pm Looks good, i am also backing in thru a 12 ft wide door, pretty easy even with an arc in the approach. Intend to do the painted stripe thing, sorry about the misfortune of the fire sprinkler system as it is pretty much worthless for a vehicle fire, unless they are motorcycles, but you even have to protect above a swimming pool. No exceptions for common sense. Quote Selected 1 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #70 – October 03, 2019, 10:40:00 pm We back in more than 400 ft through two 90° corners and through a 12 ft door. I have a orange line on the floor of the barn. It helps but backing into the barn is like backing into a black hole. Even with all the lights on it is hard. Late in the day it is easier. Mid day we open the side sliding doors and the back door as well. That helps.First time was about twenty tries to get lined up. Truth is you just need to start close and it is pretty easy to make adjustments. Practice makes perfect. I can do it now in one shot. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #71 – October 04, 2019, 01:09:23 pm I've probably backed a fire engine, truck, water tender, crash rescue (airport), or brush rig into a fire station over a thousand times in my career. We had yellow lines painted and a cradle for the back wheel to let us know we were "there". The main consideration is lining up the rig before it begins to enter the building whenever possible. It helps not to have an upward swinging cabinet door open when you back in. The most challenging one was backing a 45' aerial ladder truck into an old fire house (narrow opening) with an 8' apron on a two lane (one each way) residential street. I've never had to back 400' around two 90 degree bends however.Barn update: We're wrapping it for the stucco. My plan to sit back and watch was predictably a dream. I'm back to screwing metal lath (every 6") into metal again. Quote Selected 2 Likes
Re: RV barn update Reply #72 – October 04, 2019, 02:35:01 pm Looks good. Have you considered doing an epoxy coating (with that yellow stripe) on the floor to prevent staining and easy cleaning?No matter how much experience, Backing into black holes is never fun. My gracious friend who allows me to use his breezeway to park our coach is a black hole for sure. I have 1 foot (max) on each side of the coach when it's centered. Slow and easy as well as a few trips out to lay eyes when I back it in. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #73 – October 04, 2019, 04:05:08 pm I had my line out onto the driveway. Painted it after sealing the driveway, it lasted about one season. The part in the barn was done before sealing. It is holding up well. I have a very obvious mark on the barn wall that I see through the passengers window. When it lines up with the front edge of the window I stop. I had some stops for the rear wheels but I didn't trust them. Quote Selected
Re: RV barn update Reply #74 – October 04, 2019, 08:11:48 pm Quote from: Roger & Susan in Home2 – June 05, 2019, 11:31:31 pmAfter the concrete has had time to fully cure seal it with a good sealer. PS110 Siloxane Water Repellent WB-10 Penetrating Sealer (5 gal.) - Concrete...Roger, thanks for the recommendation. I was put off when I read that it was not intended as an oil repellant - that is my main concern with the floor. I've been reading about silicate and siliconate sealers. The finish I'm looking for would resemble the floors in Lowe's and HD. The problem with any film type (as opposed to penetrating) sealer is that they need to be redone every few years. Once, treated, I don't want to have to "revisit" the issue - I already have enough recurring maintenance chores with vehicles. Quote Selected