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New sureflo water pump cycling

Replaced my old one with a new. No leaks to be found but if left on, it will cycle once an hour for about 5 seconds like its losing pressure? Buddy thinks the pump is defective. What's your opinions
1996 U295-36, Cummins 300hp, 8.3. Build number 4864. Vin number 1F97D536XTNO54271. Purchased October 31, 2019.

Re: New sureflo water pump cycling

Reply #1
Put a cap on the output fitting and see if it cycles.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
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Reply #2
Your tank fill valve could be leaking......bypassing and letting a little water into the fresh water tank.
 
Justin & Cathy Byrd
1995 U280 "Old Faithful"
36' Build #4673
C8.3 Cummins
Allison MD3060R 6 speed - retarder
Powertech 10KW  4cyl Kubota

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Reply #3
Don't think pump is defective. What model Shurflo pump did you install?

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Reply #4
" Your tank fill valve could be leaking......bypassing and letting a little water into the fresh water tank."

X 2.

Had the same problem. Drove me nuts until I noticed the fresh water tank filling.
Alan & Gerri Ortiz
1996 U295 36 ft.
"Rocinante"
Hartwell, Georgia
1999 Subaru Forester
Build No. 4957 Motorcader 17399

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Reply #5
My fill valve was not leaking but was allowing a small amount of water thru, because a prior owner had used too much force and slightly bent the "stop" on the lever, which allowed the valve to continue turning past the off position and start opening the valve.
Removed the lever, bent it back Into position and reattached - pump went silent!
David & Emma Roche
Dino (Golden Doodle)
1999 U270 WTFE 36' Build # 5534
Xtreme "Lights, Stripes & Roof"
Motorcade# 18321
Dayton, Ohio
Towd: Jeep Grand Cherokee
Two Townie Electra Bikes

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Reply #6
Fill ball valve is clear on handle. Turns hard like it's working. FT made it real handy to replace! ha ha. Could my fresh water city valve on panel be leaking air? I'm thinking with the under sink valve closed and it shuts off properly, wouldn't matter. I had filled the tank to max and when I went around a corner a bit leaked out in the street but that was probably the overflow correct? I could install the old shurflow pump and see if it goes away
1996 U295-36, Cummins 300hp, 8.3. Build number 4864. Vin number 1F97D536XTNO54271. Purchased October 31, 2019.

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Reply #7
Yes it was probably the overflow, we always try to not go over the 7/8 full.
The wall of the tank is visible in the wet bay and I timed the fill and made a mark every 10 minutes of fill time. I can look and I will leave it for twenty minutes and know just how full it will be.
If you take the nut off the handle of the fill valve You can remove the floor panel and check the alignment of the valve for a true off position.
You could shut everything off at the manablock and see if the pump stops cycling, if it does it's a limbo g issue, open one supply valve at a time (closing it before you open the next one) and see if it's a dedicated line issue,
Check the over pressure valve (TPR) on the water heater to see if it's weeping wet - do not release this valve.
David & Emma Roche
Dino (Golden Doodle)
1999 U270 WTFE 36' Build # 5534
Xtreme "Lights, Stripes & Roof"
Motorcade# 18321
Dayton, Ohio
Towd: Jeep Grand Cherokee
Two Townie Electra Bikes

Life is made to enjoy, the Foretravel helps!

Re: New sureflo water pump cycling

Reply #8
Talked to FT Tech Ronnie and he had me release the schrader valve on the accumulator tank. It squirted me in the face with water. Bladder is shot SO, I'll replace the tank and retest. I'll post the results.
Thanks
1996 U295-36, Cummins 300hp, 8.3. Build number 4864. Vin number 1F97D536XTNO54271. Purchased October 31, 2019.

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Reply #9
Indeed, with water coming out the schrader valve of the accumulator, it is BAD.  Replace it.

BUT (yes, large BUT) that will not cause the water pump to cycle on once all faucets are off.

Water leaks and/or leaking check valve will cause cycling.

Symptoms of a bad accumulator is pulsing when faucet partially opened and pump coming on immediately-- i.e. no stored water in the accumulator.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: New sureflo water pump cycling

Reply #10
Love success!
1996 U295-36, Cummins 300hp, 8.3. Build number 4864. Vin number 1F97D536XTNO54271. Purchased October 31, 2019.

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Reply #11
Dan, If you can, please post the part number for the accumulator tank, my pump keep running recently, I drained off the water in the accumulator tank, and it's been working, but I am going to do a replacement like you, as I'm sure my tanks is shot too.
Thanks
Mark & Bev
2001 U295 36' Slide
Cummins ISC 8.3 350HP
Build #5802
Jeep Wrangler Toad


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Reply #13
I emailed Brad at FT tonight. I'll post what he says tomorrow
1996 U295-36, Cummins 300hp, 8.3. Build number 4864. Vin number 1F97D536XTNO54271. Purchased October 31, 2019.

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Reply #14
Call Shurflo and talk to customer service,called them once were very helpful,maybe an pressure adjustment,they know more then any of us.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

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Reply #15
Jabsco 2 gallon accumulator tank. Part number, 18810-0000. $159.55 plus tax and shipping at FT Brad
1996 U295-36, Cummins 300hp, 8.3. Build number 4864. Vin number 1F97D536XTNO54271. Purchased October 31, 2019.

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Reply #16
Mark,

Those pre charged pressure tanks can be found at most any home improvement store. Here is what we have on our coach.
https://www.homedepot.com/p/Water-Worker-2-Gal-Pressurized-Well-Tank-HT2B/202846475

Mike

And, different than this one in what way???
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
Moderator, ForeForum 2001-
Moderator Diesel RV Club 2002-
Moderator, FMCA Forum 2009-2020
Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020


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Reply #18
$$$ + tax + shipping + waiting to get it.    :o

Actually, if you just GOTTA have the Jabsco tank, it might be a relative bargain from FOT.  Amazon wants $206.59 (+ tax?).  :o    :o

But, personally, I would choose Mike's pick from HD.  :thumbsup:
1993 U280 SE 40' WTBI, Build: 4359
C8.3 300hp, 6-Speed, Exhaust Brake
960 watts on the roof (6 x 160)
Sorento (or BOLT) on a Kar Kaddy SS
"Nature abhors a vacuum"

Re: New sureflo water pump cycling

Reply #19
what about those new-fangled pumps that don't require an accumulator
1994 U280 Unihome Grand Villa aka "Lazy Dayzz"                                              Cummins 300hp
    Allison 6 speed

Previous coaches:
1984 Revcon Duke 29 aka: "The General"
1984 VW Westfalia
1976 VW Westfalia

Re: New sureflo water pump cycling

Reply #20
what about those new-fangled pumps that don't require an accumulator
Mine works great.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

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Reply #21
What are the new fangled pumps? Maybe I will just eliminate it with my new Shurflow and try it!
1996 U295-36, Cummins 300hp, 8.3. Build number 4864. Vin number 1F97D536XTNO54271. Purchased October 31, 2019.

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Reply #22
What are the new fangled pumps? Maybe I will just eliminate it with my new Shurflow and try it!
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1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: New sureflo water pump cycling

Reply #23
Bought a new Shurflo a few years ago, took the air tank out ,you don't need it, pump was'nt new fangled,it should say on your directions if you need the tank or not.
96 U270 BUILD 4810
85 380SL
Drummonds TN.

Re: New sureflo water pump cycling

Reply #24
Called Shurflo and I don't need it but he said it will give me a bit more pressure with it. My model is 2088-554-144, new last December. I'll try it without and save $200+ dollars. If I don't like it without I'll add it back.
Thanks for every ones help. Once I get it out, I'll go to HD and compare their $45 dollar one
1996 U295-36, Cummins 300hp, 8.3. Build number 4864. Vin number 1F97D536XTNO54271. Purchased October 31, 2019.