Toyo Tires

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Toyo Tires

July 27, 2020, 11:27:47 am

I've pretty much decided to replace my year 2013 Michelin tires with Toyos. They are 275-80-22.5. I have a good price from Les Schwabb but they tell me that Toyo does not make a 275, only a 295. I've read that the 295 size rubs on the air bag mount. Is this info on 275 correct and if so, what is your experience with the 295s? Thanks.
jor

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Reply #1 – July 27, 2020, 11:32:12 am

Will check mine but have had Toyos for a few years no problems.

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Reply #2 – July 27, 2020, 11:37:04 am

1997 U295 36'...Toyo 295/75, M122 no rubbie!
Love my tires, cheap too.

Chris
P.S. Size on tire, doesn't always dictate actual size.
I changed out my super lowered dually PU tires to a different brand, same size, and the fronts rubbed bad. Had to cut back the wheel well lips

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Reply #3 – July 27, 2020, 11:42:30 am

You can't use the 295/80 must use 295/75 to not have a problem

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Reply #4 – July 27, 2020, 12:26:35 pm

Quote from: gracerace – July 27, 2020, 11:37:04 am

1997 U295 36'...Toyo 295's, no rubbie!
Love my tires, cheap too.

Chris
P.S. Size on tire, doesn't always dictate actual size.
I changed out my super lowered dually PU tires to a different brand, same size, and the fronts rubbed bad. Had to cut back the wheel well lips

Which series did you go with? Been looking at Toyo 295/75R22.5 and thinking the 154.

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Reply #5 – July 27, 2020, 12:39:01 pm

Love the ride on my Toyos

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Reply #6 – July 27, 2020, 12:43:59 pm

Don't count out Uniroyals

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Reply #7 – July 27, 2020, 12:51:09 pm

I have seen the 295's just rub just slightly at full turn. I was going to just trim/ grind the airbag lower mounting plate ( plate is bigger than the airbag base) maybe 3/16 to 1/4 just at one spot. Otherwise they work

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Reply #8 – July 27, 2020, 12:55:20 pm

Again, to be clear, we are talking about 295/75R22.5,

NOT 295/80R22.5.

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Reply #9 – July 27, 2020, 01:03:12 pm

Jor

Switched to 295/75 Toyo's on my 98 U270 34' 2 years ago. No problem.

Mike.

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Reply #10 – July 27, 2020, 02:03:56 pm

Quote from: DayDreamer – July 27, 2020, 12:26:35 pm

Which series did you go with? Been looking at Toyo 295/75R22.5 and thinking the 154.

295/75R M122

Six mounted out the door, $2300.00 tax and all. I know the manager, he gave me the 'brother in-law" price, and $100.00 a piece for the old 10 yr old tires. Good enough for around town dump truck.

Be sure to check the DOT dates, we talked about that, and when I got home, the dates were 10 months old. Kinda bummed me out, just sucked it up didn't say anything.

Chris

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Reply #11 – July 27, 2020, 02:07:57 pm

We had the 295 Toyos put on last year. They did rub on the front air bag mounting plates when making a very sharp turn. I could have ground a little off the air bag plates, but didn't want to do that. Went back and paid a little more and had the 275 Michelins put on.

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Reply #12 – July 27, 2020, 02:15:14 pm

Not Toyo but I have 295 on my 270 and they don't run in a turn. Can't get any closer but the don't rub..295 Bridgestone.. Maybe you can find a comparison of the 2 on internet.

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Reply #13 – July 27, 2020, 02:19:43 pm

So what if they rub ocasionally?

P

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Reply #14 – July 27, 2020, 02:36:58 pm

Would take a very sharp turn as in at the stops so coach would be going very slow.. Small skiff shouldn't hurt anything.. First time I noticed mine being so close I actually thought the edge of the tire and base of the bag were touching but no evidence of doing so on outside of the tire.That was 10,000 miles ago and still see no evidence of rubbing.

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Reply #15 – July 27, 2020, 03:11:15 pm

Like Pierce indicated, it's no big deal and does no harm with a slight rub when turning sharply. The rub is really just a "touch" of the tire on the air bag base ate, again, no harm. For me, it was just a mental thing, and it bothered me, so I changed them.

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Reply #16 – July 27, 2020, 06:31:57 pm

Okay, want to give you Toyo buyers a heads up here. I had a set of Toyo 177 load range H mounted. The Toyo literature stated they were direct replacements for the comparable Michelin tires. My Toyos were made in Japan.

Okay, so mounted up, drove home with tires inflated to max from dealer, and decided to adjust inflation. Looked at the Toyo inflation schedules and WTF....there are two different charts for M177 LR H tires. One has a maximum inflation of 120 psi, one has a max inflation of 125 psi. The 125 psi tires are the Japanese made ones...and their minimal inflation is, IIRC, 95 psi. The 120 psi max tires go down to inflation levels comparable to the Michelin tires....70 psi or so. Unfortunately for me, I am not a believer in max inflation, I prefer to set for load and better ride qualities for my light, no slide 36' coach.....and I'm stuck with a set of tires that are made for hi psi settings only. Called Toyo, zero help, more like "sucks to be you, sir."

So, if you are not a fan of log truck ride qualities, might want to watch out for this gotcha.

https://www.toyotires.com/media/2155/2017_commercial_loadandinflation_tables.pdf

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Reply #17 – July 27, 2020, 06:57:32 pm

I looked at the Toyo chart and saw the 125, did not look at the inflation versus weight chart so did not see the 95 minimum.

My "H" rated Michelin's are correct at 87 rear so that might be a problem,

The Michelin's seem to have a definite self centering design. Directional sipes.

Noticeable to me driving. Drove a lot of older design Toyos and never noticed the centering feeling

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Reply #18 – July 27, 2020, 07:02:25 pm

If you look at the chart, there are two different M177 lrH tires. On one of them, everything below 95 psi is blank. No go zone according to Toyo. On the other tire, they go down to 70 PSI inflation.

My next tires will be Michelin.

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Reply #19 – July 27, 2020, 07:29:26 pm

Chuck,

Too bad you are not closer and I would buy two from you. I max out pressures so no big deal. 110 psi for our G rated tires.

Pierce

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Reply #20 – July 27, 2020, 08:05:12 pm

I guess it's one's preference. I've had Continental, Michelin, Ohtsu, and Toyo, all worked just fine for me. Currently on a set of Toyos (125 psi rated) for the last 3 years all is good.

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Reply #21 – July 27, 2020, 08:17:09 pm

Quote from: bbeane – July 27, 2020, 08:05:12 pm

I guess it's one's preference. I've had Continental, Michelin, Ohtsu, and Toyo, all worked just fine for me. Currently on a set of Toyos (125 psi rated) for the last 3 years all is good.

125 PSI...YIKES!

32K lbs actual weight loaded (scaled), 90 back, 95 front.....Here comes the haters....Oh Lordy, the tire pressure post again....

Where you at Bubba? Get the pump fixed?

Chris

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Reply #22 – July 27, 2020, 08:25:43 pm

Jor, I made the switch to the 295/75/22.5 from the Michelin's. I went with the lower tread depth model steer tire (I think it was the 137) While at MOT having new airbags and FSD's installed. I asked about the slight rubbing at the sharp turn angle. They said not an issue. The slight rubbing only happens at a sharp steering input (think campground parking) The wheel is turning so slowly and the contact so brief. It won't hurt that mount nor the tire. And if you do make contact at highway speeds. You will be in the middle of rolling your coach. So MOT says non-issue.

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Reply #23 – July 27, 2020, 08:30:03 pm

Chris my 97 40' U320 with full tanks and empty holding weighed less by a small amount. 2k worth of tools?

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Reply #24 – July 27, 2020, 09:09:43 pm

We have had Toyo M154's 295/75 for the past four years with no rubbing issues, good ride. I recently changed the fronts to Michelin XZA2 295/80, no rubbing problems and they allow me to drop my pressure from 117 lb to 98 lb. Also, the Michelin are much quieter than the Toyos.

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