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Reply #25
I'm lucky here as we have a city recycling place near me that takes both oil and
antifreeze. I would google "where can I get rid of old oil in your area".
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

Re: The mystery of user Geomm and #4612 Explained - Intro and Ask for assistance

Reply #26
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I feel like that is one of those big savings areas I can do. I do have couple of questions though.

1. I have been thinking I can do this myself but my biggest concern has been what to do with the used oil? YES, AS OTHERS HAVE SAID YOU CAN POUR THE OLD OIL INTO THE GALLON JUGS THAT THE NEW OIL CAME IN AN RECYCLE ALMOST ANYWHERE.

2. What type of coolant do these use? I read a post about having to have the coolant tested and then adding something to it to bring its SEP(?) content to the right level? Could I not just get away with a full drain and refill with the appropriate fluid type?
-I read in a post a while back that my father was under the impression the 3176B did not have the aluminum plate you talked about? Any chance you know if that was ever confirmed? TO CONFIRM IF IT HAS THE ALUMINUM SPACER, CALL CATERPILLAR CORP WITH THE ENGINE SERIAL NUMBER (877 777-3126).  BUT WITH A CATERPILLAR ENGINE, I WOULD FLUSH THE COOLING SYSTEM (TIME CONSUMING, BUT NOT COMPLICATED) AND GO WITH CATERPILLAR ELC COOLANT. BE SURE TO GET CONCENTRATE.  IF YOU NEED THE STEP BY STEP, LET US KNOW.

3. Is the transmission and rear-end fluid something easily done as well? YES.  GET THE FILTER AND FLUID FROM ANY ALLISON DISTRIBUTOR.  THE TRANSMISSION SERIAL NUMBER IS ON THE DRIVER'S SIDE OF THE TRANSMISSION.  YOU WILL WANT THE NEW TES 688 FLUID THAT ALLISON IS CARRYING.  REAR AXLE IS THE SAME AS ANY VEHICLE WITH REAR AXLE, BUT OF COURSE LARGER CAPACITY.

Thanks,

Brett Wolfe
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Re: The mystery of user Geomm and #4612 Explained - Intro and Ask for assistance

Reply #27
I'll interject a thought. As you said time is an issue. You will unfortunately find that scheduling a maintenance appointment at an RV repair shop can be long frustrating process. As you are looking at mostly taking care of the drivetrain to get the coach back east safely. I would suggest to avoid an RV shop like the plague and use a reputable truck repair shop instead. The truck shops are not usually scheduled months in advance like RV shops are. A truck shop can inspect and repair those slide pins on the brake calipers and deal with any other oily things that need fixing or lubing.   

EDIT to add: You might even check into flat bedding the coach back East. I have no idea what the cost is. But it can be an option if you ultimately run out of time to get everything in order.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
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Reply #28
Guessing 5-7k for flatbed. Last resort. Throw the timetable out if you want to be on schedule. Everything will sort its self out, but at its schedule. Took me like ten days to get home with our coach. Couple of relax days in there too.
Scott
Wanted dead or alive

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Reply #29
Reading your dad's posts air bags replaced 5 years ago along with new Yokohama  tires. The tires are only 5 years old and if were covered probably just need to be inspected.
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Reply #30
If your dad did airbags and fuel lines I would bet he had it serviced properly. Did he
drive it much, what does the oil look like. If everything looks good I would go and
get extra fuel filters and maybe change the fuel filter after a thousand miles or so.
It's a lot easier to get things done when you get home.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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Reply #31

If you decide to run the fuel in the tank now, add a fuel treatment and a biocide.  Also have a least one set of fuel filters on board in case you need to change them on the road. 

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2003 U320 40' Tag 2 slide


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Reply #33
Guessing 5-7k for flatbed. Last resort. Throw the timetable out if you want to be on schedule. Everything will sort its self out, but at its schedule. Took me like ten days to get home with our coach. Couple of relax days in there too.
Scott
Wanted dead or alive
To be sure it wouldn't be cheap. But then burning vacation time to travel clear across the country. Hotels, Eating out, Etc. Along with the added stress of working on or having the coach worked on in a place you don't know very well while also being short on time. It can result in a bad decision because of the lack of time. But yes, It's a last resort sort of thing.
Jerry & Nona and Kimeru the cat that thinks she's a dog
1998 36' WTFE U320  #5314 Motorcade #17711
USAF 1975-1995
2019 Subaru Crosstrek 'toad'
2003 Subaru Legacy touring car
jerry Fincher | Flickr

Re: The mystery of user Geomm and #4612 Explained - Intro and Ask for assistance

Reply #34
I'll interject a thought. As you said time is an issue. You will unfortunately find that scheduling a maintenance appointment at an RV repair shop can be long frustrating process. As you are looking at mostly taking care of the drivetrain to get the coach back east safely. I would suggest to avoid an RV shop like the plague and use a reputable truck repair shop instead. The truck shops are not usually scheduled months in advance like RV shops are. A truck shop can inspect and repair those slide pins on the brake calipers and deal with any other oily things that need fixing or lubing.   

EDIT to add: You might even check into flat bedding the coach back East. I have no idea what the cost is. But it can be an option if you ultimately run out of time to get everything in order.
Bigdog,

Yeah, I figured that out, where were you 6 months ago!? (kidding, I should have started posting here months ago). After some research, I figured out this was beyond most RV shops and after a couple of calls found that they were booked out for months as you stated. I found these to be more like a Bus/Semi than an RV when it comes to the drivetrain components so I have been looking for heavy-duty diesel mechanics. I think I might start calling the semi-truck guys and seeing what they say.

Thanks,
1995 U300SE CAT 3176B Build # 4612 ("Marvin")

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Reply #35
Reading your dad's posts air bags replaced 5 years ago along with new Yokohama  tires. The tires are only 5 years old and if were covered probably just need to be inspected.
Craneman,

I guess I am going to have the tire shop pull a couple, look at them, and see what they say. I know they are going to try to tell me they all need replacing but I worked at Big O Tires in college so I know a lot of the bulls*** tire shops pull, hopefully, that helps me with getting the facts lol. Fingers crossed!!

Thanks,
1995 U300SE CAT 3176B Build # 4612 ("Marvin")

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Reply #36
 If they are Michelins , change them . Any other brand should be OK as long as they get to be round with driving .

Re: The mystery of user Geomm and #4612 Explained - Intro and Ask for assistance

Reply #37
If your dad did airbags and fuel lines I would bet he had it serviced properly. Did he
drive it much, what does the oil look like. If everything looks good I would go and
get extra fuel filters and maybe change the fuel filter after a thousand miles or so.
It's a lot easier to get things done when you get home.

Oldguy,

From what I have pieced together/remember him telling me (and knowing him), he did all the services himself as he was very mechanically inclined and wanted to know this thing like the back of his hand by the time he retired into it. He was "de-mothballing" this from a long stint sitting at a storage yard so he actually only drove it once, that was about 5-6 years ago when he moved it from the spot he was working on it, to the spot at our friend's house where he was living in it full-time and getting ready for retirement.

I believe he did a lot, if not all, of the fluids over the 3-4 years he was working on it (5-8 years ago). When I checked the oil before starting it, it looked like the oil that was in my F-250 7.3L when it was halfway between oil changes (2500-3000 miles), dark, but clear of any noticeable contamination or shiny flakes of any kind. I don't know if that helps explain it.

I definitely plan to have a couple of extra filters onboard with me for the trip, I read those are a common cause of breakdown in these situations.

Thanks,
1995 U300SE CAT 3176B Build # 4612 ("Marvin")

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Reply #38
To be sure it wouldn't be cheap. But then burning vacation time to travel clear across the country. Hotels, Eating out, Etc. Along with the added stress of working on or having the coach worked on in a place you don't know very well while also being short on time. It can result in a bad decision because of the lack of time. But yes, It's a last resort sort of thing.
Bigdog,

I am not super stressed on time I am hoping to get him ready to hit the road to N. California for the first semi-long-range test run by mid december. As for driving out east, I have 2-3 weeks open to make the drive so I am going to take my time.

1995 U300SE CAT 3176B Build # 4612 ("Marvin")

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Reply #39
If they are Michelins , change them . Any other brand should be OK as long as they get to be round with driving .
Protech,

Well, they are Yokohama's so I hope you are right!
1995 U300SE CAT 3176B Build # 4612 ("Marvin")

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Reply #40
All of you wonderful people,

I am going to be heading down to the coach on Wednesday I believe so I will be posting a bunch of photos and some other Topics to cover some of the main areas of concern, any suggestions other than the obvious (post tech talk in.. tech talk) that I should know? If I am going to be bombarding the forum with pictures and such I want to have the proper etiquette on here when doing so. I come from a generation (millennials....) where most of us lack the ability to interact in a way that is mature and respectful, I am trying to "break the stereotype" here as I know this is going to be a great resource and community for me to be part of.

Thanks in advance!
1995 U300SE CAT 3176B Build # 4612 ("Marvin")

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Reply #41
You can save yourself a lot of headaches if you install a quick drain for the oil. Use the vacuum cleaner method for installing the quick drain the first time so you don't make a mess. If you have a 8.3 Cummins, be REALLY CAREFUL not to damage the aluminum threads. Once you have installed a quick drain, you never have to worry again!

NAPA and other autoparts stores take used oil in many places. Call ahead. Read oil posts on how to change oil and filter. Buy a strap wrench that uses a 1/2" or 3/8" breaker bar to operate. They are fool proof and will even remove spinoff air dryer cartridges.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
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Reply #42
There are two places that I know of in Riverside County where they do mechanical service routinely on rigs like ours with the HD drive trains. One is Colton Truck Terminal :: COLTON TRUCK TERMINAL GARAGE ::, which I have used twice, and Redland Truck and RV Redlands Truck and RV Maintenance and Repair Service
Colton doesn't do remodeling or any RV house stuff, but many Foretravel owners have used it for mechanical work.
Redlands won't let you stay with the coach or watch the work, Colton does (or did) let you stay in the coach where practical and watch the work. That settled it for me.
Don
...I think I might start calling the semi-truck guys and seeing what they say.

Thanks,
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Don & Tys
1999 U270 3602 WTFE #5402
Xtreme Stage 1 w/Headlight, Step Conversion, etc.
2009 Honda Fit Sport with Navi
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Reply #43
I have Yokohama tires. They work just fine. There is a plant in Mississippi that makes Yokohama tires now.
1999 U270 40 #5518
USN. USPS.

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Reply #44
You can save yourself a lot of headaches if you install a quick drain for the oil. Use the vacuum cleaner method for installing the quick drain the first time so you don't make a mess. If you have a 8.3 Cummins, be REALLY CAREFUL not to damage the aluminum threads. Once you have installed a quick drain, you never have to worry again!

NAPA and other autoparts stores take used oil in many places. Call ahead. Read oil posts on how to change oil and filter. Buy a strap wrench that uses a 1/2" or 3/8" breaker bar to operate. They are fool proof and will even remove spinoff air dryer cartridges.

Pierce
I will look into the quick drain. It has a Caterpillar 3176B in it so hopefully no aluminum threads but I will be extra careful with that in mind.

I think I have filter wrenches that will work but I will double-check, good looking. Thanks
1995 U300SE CAT 3176B Build # 4612 ("Marvin")

Re: The mystery of user Geomm and #4612 Explained - Intro and Ask for assistance

Reply #45
I will look into the quick drain. It has a Caterpillar 3176B in it so hopefully no aluminum threads but I will be extra careful with that in mind.

I think I have filter wrenches that will work but I will double-check, good looking. Thanks

The filters can be very tight.  A heavy duty strap wrench like these works well.
Strap Wrench

Some folks recommend ensuring the filter is loose, then punching a hole in the bottom to drain it.

I used a large storage tub lined with a heavy duty trash bag to catch the oil and minimize cleanup.  If you install the quick drain, in the future you can drain directly into old jugs.
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Reply #46
Some folks recommend ensuring the filter is loose, then punching a hole in the bottom to drain it.

I used a large storage tub lined with a heavy duty trash bag to catch the oil and minimize cleanup.  If you install the quick drain, in the future you can drain directly into old jugs.

I do the same.
Brett Wolfe
EX: 1993 U240
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Chairman FMCA Technical Advisory Committee 2011-2020

Re: The mystery of user Geomm and #4612 Explained - Intro and Ask for assistance

Reply #47
I will look into the quick drain. It has a Caterpillar 3176B in it so hopefully no aluminum threads but I will be extra careful with that in mind.

I think I have filter wrenches that will work but I will double-check, good looking. Thanks

Pan is aluminum......4 drain points, all are on the "side" of pan......not been an issue for me in the last 10 years

H
Hans & Marjet
1995 U300 "Ben" (#4719)
3176B Cat,4060HD,Jake
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Reply #48
Oldguy

I believe he did a lot, if not all, of the fluids over the 3-4 years he was working on it (5-8 years ago). When I checked the oil before starting it, it looked like the oil that was in my F-250 7.3L when it was halfway between oil changes (2500-3000 miles), dark, but clear of any noticeable contamination or shiny flakes of any kind. I don't know if that helps explain it.

I definitely plan to have a couple of extra filters onboard with me for the trip, I read those are a common cause of breakdown in these situations.

Thanks,
I would just check all the fluids and head out and change your oil when you get home. It's too bad there isn't
a drain valve on the bottom of the fuel tank but what I would do is find some kind of pump, a small hand pump
would work, and drain off some of the fuel from the bottom of your tank so you can check it out. If it is clean
you are good to go and if not pump it out until it comes clean.
Peter and Frieda Morin
1999 36ft. U320 Foretravel
Build # 5436
1998 Suzuki Sidekick Sport

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Reply #49
My experience with Yokohama's was that they outlasted all the other brands as far as sidewall cracks.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean