Foretravel Owners' Forum For owners and Fans of Foretravel Motorcoaches September 12, 2025 ...

I got with my contact at MOT this morning to see if he could share any email contacts for FOT / Foretravel / MOT. He was able to give me a few at MOT, I found one at FOT that I included, as well as the parts department at FOT. The James Triana that Brett mentioned nothing found.

Just checked our 2000 U270 with ISC 350. Picture attached. I don't see this ID in the thread...does that mean our pump is available if needed?

Randy

Last posted e-mail address for Triana is technical.assistance@foretravel.com

The 40998 is the rear housing number, that part in itself no longer exists at the moment...

According to eBay, there is at least one example in existence...

New 40998 Sauer Danfoss Rear Pump Cover | eBay

41188 (U270, U295, U320)
41078 (U320)
40994
41063
41079
CPJ-1041
CPJ-1007V
CPJ-1020
CPJ-1007
CPJ-1013

Jimmy got under there and ours has 40998 stamped on it.

Hi Mike
I really appreciate all your research and am sorry for all your pump trouble, it's amazing what persistence and determination gets you! I am happy you got the last shaft.
I have a 99 U270 350hp
The numbers are: rear housing 40998 and pump 1746
I have sent an email to Simone.
You mentioned belt tension: with engine off I have a 1/2" play when top belt is pushed down until the tensioned moves and about 1/4" constant movement in the tensioner when the engine is running, is this too much, now I am anxious that this could cause a problem.
Thank you
David

David,

Look again for the engine number, there is no such as a 1746, mine also had a number like that on it, and never did figure out what that number meant.. I found the pump number stamped in MUCH SMALLER punch sizes. Based on the general feedback, your vintage of coach, and engine size, Id be shocked if you dont also find the 41188 there.

If I really zoom in on your picture with the 1746 I think I see something on the opposite end, but upper section.

So far we have only identified 2 of the 10 that are used on the 270-295 & 320 coaches. If you are belt driven its probably the 41188, if your pump is direct engine gear driven its the 41078, both on the list. The later 320s seem to be the only ones that are direct driven.

As for the tension, your spring loaded tensioner decides how much tension the belt should have. The general consensus seems to be whether it be owners or Hydraulic shops talking the subject, that when the engine is idling OR running at speed, you should have little to no bounce of the tensioner/belt assembly as a whole. If you have excessive bounce, that in itself is undue vibration on a tapered shaft. I do recall when I first bought my coach it had quit a bit of bounce, actually both of my tensioners did. One of my first things to do was to replace all my belts and my tensioners.

What also comes recommended is to run the HD gates Green back belts for the Hyd system, this belt is a heavier build than the regular gates belt for such, and will help keep the system tight and not loosen as much over time.
Amazon.com: Gates K080465HD FleetRunner Micro-V Serpentine Drive Belt :...
(the one my 295 runs, be sure about yours)

So Mike I think you brought up a very important point with the better belt. I still think that this failure is do to the loads on the pulley. A better belt would evenly load the inside of the pulley reducing loads applied to the end of the pulley.

So Mike I think you brought up a very important point with the better belt. I still think that this failure is do to the loads on the pulley. A better belt would evenly load the inside of the pulley reducing loads applied to the end of the pulley. If a lesser quality belt is used it may actually stretch on the inside allowing more loads father out on the pulley and ultimately farther out on the shaft increasing the shaft loads and shaft flex leading to fatigue failures. This also would explain why we haven't seen ISM direct driven failures do to direct drive with zero side loads. IMO

***  UPDATE from the original poster ***

Obviously, the Thanksgiving holiday made some of this take a bit of time.

From QCC. The customer end user/contact on this matter has been highly impressive. The sales and planning departments are on board with continued sourcing. They are at the moment obtaining quotes for the both the shafts as well as the rear housings for the 10 discontinued pumps.

FOT, parts department manager ( Brad Langford) contact me yesterday. They agree this is an issue that  affects countless FT coaches, and needs to be addressed. They are in contact with QCC / Simone Morris to come up with some sort of solution.