Foretravel Owners' Forum For owners and Fans of Foretravel Motorcoaches September 11, 2025 ...

Mike
Thank you for all your help, I am going ahead and changing out the belt and tensioner possibly closing the barn door after the horse has left but it may save the pump for now considering there is only 65000 miles on it.
I tried to find another number on the housing but when I tried to clean it off a bit more it froze over with the cold, then ran the engine to warm it up and searched, even used a mirror but nothing. My name should be Simone's list, she was out today and as soon as they say they are resuming production I will  pull the pump and see if the number is under the bracket.
With all your research that affects so many coaches you should be immediately awarded an honorary "Hero  Status" on the forum. 🏆
Thanks
David

I am glad that my efforts, as well as the support of the community has shown the manufacturing industry, and at least OUR brand, that the demand is still there and needed.

Mike,

If it weren't for your efforts, both in collecting information and identifying, then reaching out to, the key players and then communicating the sense of urgency to the membership of Foreforums, and if the forum membership hadn't responded so solidly in its interest and support, it's highly unlikely we would have the good outcome these efforts have produced.

Foretravel would have continued along the "NLA" path, with a serious detriment and possibly black eye to the brand when coaches could no longer be repaired because of the unavailability of such a basic, "out of sight, out of mind" component.  QCC might have scrapped the specs/drawings for these pumps since they were no longer supported and they didn't know about the level of user base still out there.  I feel that it's because of the efforts and communications to the key parties by members of this forum that a potential "hard stop" has been averted.

I have never been so proud of this forum's membership.

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Just spoke with Simone, at QCC and they have started the process for making more pumps, they have put out bids for whatever is needed. She has everyone's emails and will respond with pricing and availability as soon as they get the details.
THIS IS GREAT NEWS!
If you have not sent an email it's not too late
mailto:  simone@qccorp.com [<= e-mail address corrected - Michelle]
I told her that I could not find the second required number without removing the pump which I would be happy to do if they start making them again. Equally I said that I would be happy to put a deposit down if required.

Thanks for your efforts. My 2008 Foretravel Nimbus has the discussed 41188 pump, which is failing as of yesterday. It making an extremely mechanical high pitch sound.

If this is indeed a noise from inside the pump (VS belt noise), I would not run the engine-- you could be sending shavings into your cooling fans and power steering pump.

To check, remove the belt and turn the pump by hand and check for play.

When were the oil and filters changed last and what oil are you using,the tensioner may " seem fine" but may be bad,best way to
check is with engine running and look for bouncing,but follow above advice and don't run til you know more,check the condition of the oil by using the dipstick cap.

Just spoke with Simone, at QCC and they have started the process for making more pumps, they have put out bids for whatever is needed. She has everyone's emails and will respond with pricing and availability as soon as they get the details.
THIS IS GREAT NEWS!
If you have not sent an email it's not too late
mailto:  simone@qcccorp.com
I told her that I could not find the second required number without removing the pump which I would be happy to do if they start making them again. Equally I said that I would be happy to put a deposit down if required.

Note to all that the correct email is:
simone@qccorp.com
(instead of qcccorp.com)

Simone Morris' email is correct in my posting on Page 3. (IRISH no doubt made an honest mistake)

ive been all through the 41188 recently. VERY light clicks were heard in mine, but only when it was on the bench and was not flooded with fluid. There is a bit of slack in the gears as they rotate (dry) and I felt that is what i was hearing. There is nothing internal that would cause a squeaking or squealing unless maybe your are running it dry. The 2 very hard shafts run on bronze plates, dissimilar metals can squeak if not properly lubed.

1st if your tensioner is bouncing, that is not good and could be detrimental. I would immediately order a new tensioner and the heavier belt I mention earlier in this thread. Dont run it until you replace those and the next.
2nd I would consider a filter/fluid change based on what you mention above.....especially if you have no proof that it has ever been done.

MOT closing statement was to consider re-engineering the system.

I suggest you read this entire thread, to fully understand everything. I posted a video on a properly running system for example.

Maybe someone could provide the forum members with the year and model coaches that use this particular pump that is also used for the power steering? If that is the only reason these shops won't rebuild the pumps, they may rebuild one if it isn't associated with the power steering.

Our 95 has the power steering pump attached to the air compressor and is gear driven. The Hyd pump only supplies the cooling fans but it is belt driven and appears to have the same tapered / keyed shaft.

(not to hijack, but Nimbus/Phenix coaches have a whole 'nother issue with the hydraulic fans/dry PTO that drives them, but that PTO only powers the cooling fans, not the power steering)

Actually, my' 08 Nimbus' hydraulic system powers the radiator fans and power steering. In fact, it uses the same 41188 pump at the center of discussion here and near identical hydraulic fan motors.