Hydraulic pump Failed **ALL FORETRAVEL OWNERS SHOULD READ**

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Reply #350 – May 22, 2024, 06:55:08 pm

Can enough of us get together and find someone to produce this for us like the pump? If we order a dozen or more, maybe we can get it done. Or we could get together and build a few. I am a very amateur welder but have enough parking space to accommodate 5-6 FT's and a couple of 50AMP plugs, water, and septic.

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Reply #351 – May 22, 2024, 07:37:55 pm

Quote from: propman – May 22, 2024, 06:55:08 pm

Can enough of us get together and find someone to produce this for us like the pump? If we order a dozen or more, maybe we can get it done. Or we could get together and build a few. I am a very amateur welder but have enough parking space to accommodate 5-6 FT's and a couple of 50AMP plugs, water, and septic.

Drawings indicate that it will not fit a C8.3 mechanical, what makes it different?

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Reply #352 – May 22, 2024, 11:12:38 pm

Quote from: Doug W. – May 22, 2024, 07:37:55 pm

Drawings indicate that it will not fit a C8.3 mechanical, what makes it different?

Developer is not a regular on the forum.....BUT, with his permission, I personally have given this forum his contact information.

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Reply #353 – May 26, 2024, 12:16:44 am

I received mine while on vacation. Our coach behaved flawlessly for the 2000 mile trip. I had a buddy look after the house while we were gone and he said that we had gotten a heavy box. I plan on installing the new one and keeping the old one as a spare.

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Reply #354 – August 08, 2024, 09:12:56 pm

I ordered a pump from Simone today. It should ship in about a week.

THANK YOU Mike in AL!

david

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Reply #355 – August 11, 2024, 10:47:02 am

Quote from: Shave Dores – August 08, 2024, 09:12:56 pm

I ordered a pump from Simone today. It should ship in about a week.

THANK YOU Mike in AL!

david

Your Welcome....Glad to see, Simone at QCC is still able to help folks.

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Reply #356 – August 15, 2024, 11:49:12 pm

I took our coach to Keith last week for air bags and decided to let him install my new pump while he had it. We go to pick it tomorrow. I gave Keith Simone's contact info and he ordered two, one for Gary Adkison who owns the shop Keith works out of and one for inventory.

Gary broke down on his way to Colorado and they had to take a pump off of another coach to get him going again. We are all very fortunate that QCC came to the rescue.

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Reply #357 – August 17, 2024, 07:47:45 pm

Curious what type of failure on Gary's pump, if you know

Thanks
Mike

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Reply #358 – August 17, 2024, 09:54:26 pm

Quote from: fatheeler – August 17, 2024, 07:47:45 pm

Curious what type of failure on Gary's pump, if you know

Thanks
Mike.

It wasn't a shaft failure. Apparently it quit making pressure. Why, I don't have a clue. He's going to have it rebuilt and keep as a spare.

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Reply #359 – August 17, 2024, 10:12:47 pm

Thanks

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Reply #360 – August 22, 2024, 02:41:58 pm

Those who install the new pump, how are you getting the old one rebuild?

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Reply #361 – August 23, 2024, 07:34:57 am

I don't install new pump. I place the new pump in a pale of oil and sealed it. Put the new pump in the storage compartment. the old pump works the best and I I'll be able to see if it will ever let go. Why replace something that works the best. I'll keep it for back up may never have to use it but i have my back up plus I order a shaft and seal kit so I have two back up plans. Just add it to my spare parts.

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Reply #362 – August 23, 2024, 01:54:22 pm

Quote from: Cape Bretoner – August 23, 2024, 07:34:57 am

I don't install new pump. I place the new pump in a pale of oil and sealed it. Put the new pump in the storage compartment. the old pump works the best and I I'll be able to see if it will ever let go. Why replace something that works the best. I'll keep it for back up may never have to use it but i have my back up plus I order a shaft and seal kit so I have two back up plans. Just add it to my spare parts.

Thank you! I may do the same ... for a while, not sure, but also be good to make sure the new one is going to work out of box, while it has some kind of viable warranty.
I still would like to find out "Those who install the new pump, how are you getting the old one rebuild?"

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Reply #363 – August 23, 2024, 03:27:47 pm

Quote from: Cape Bretoner – August 23, 2024, 07:34:57 am

I don't install new pump. I place the new pump in a pale of oil and sealed it. Put the new pump in the storage compartment. the old pump works the best and I I'll be able to see if it will ever let go. Why replace something that works the best. I'll keep it for back up may never have to use it but i have my back up plus I order a shaft and seal kit so I have two back up plans. Just add it to my spare parts.

Is that how you should store them? I just left mine in the box it shipped in, but if better to store in oil I can do that. Just plain old Rotella motor oil?

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Reply #364 – August 23, 2024, 04:04:09 pm

I was told by a hydraulic technician that was in the business for over 35 years that the oil would protect the seals and component. that a lot of the fishing crawlers boats.have to carry spare pumps and supplies out to sea so that they can change them if there is a breakdown so they don't have to come back in so they stored them in oil to keep them out of the elements so I had the room and decided to do the same in a plastic pail I'm sure just in the box is good he was saying that seals dry out overtime. and as far as the old pump, it was working perfect so why disturb it and I have a new back up if it lets go I was under the impression that it was tested before shipping. I have spare parts in my garage at home, that have been sitting there for a few years and I go to take them out and they are rusted or signs of rust from sitting over the years. if it's stored in a damp place , it's gonna rust. I live in the Maritimes next to the ocean, not the desert.

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Reply #365 – August 23, 2024, 07:36:10 pm

One thing that you may want to consider if storing your new pump to use as a back up. I am in that category too.

I also purchased the belt pulley and pulley adaptor to store with the pump. In the event that the shaft did break while you are under power, you could lose the pulley and adaptor. If stuck on the side of the road, it would suck to have the replacement pump on hand, but have to wait possibly days or longer, to locate the pulley and adaptor.

Some have made a catch tray, to catch the parts in the event of a failure , as I have too. But I still feel more comfortable having the whole setup on board if needed,

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Reply #366 – August 24, 2024, 06:34:08 am

I'm thinking the same. have made a catch tray, to catch the parts in the event of a failure , and also going to order a spare belt pulley and pulley adapter I believe the pulley is a Cummings part and the adaptor has to come from for Foretravel. I believe .

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Reply #367 – August 24, 2024, 11:01:48 am

I'm thankful that I found this posting regarding the hydraulic pump. I ordered a new one and immediately replaced it on my 1999 U270. It's an easy project. I have a working used one that I took off should anyone like to buy it. The best reason to replace a working pump is because they came from a known bad batch. It's simply not worth the risk of flying parts in the engine bay, or the possibly of losing other parts. I've done a lot of other preventative maintenance as well.

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Reply #368 – August 24, 2024, 12:04:44 pm

Quote from: rodcopter – August 24, 2024, 11:01:48 am

The best reason to replace a working pump is because they came from a known bad batch.

What year or years were affected by this "known bad batch"?

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Reply #369 – August 24, 2024, 06:49:56 pm

Rick, correct. Pulley from Cummins and adaptor from FOT.

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Reply #370 – August 24, 2024, 07:59:16 pm

I think I have read this topic front to back and have never seen the possibility of a bad batch of pumps being eluded to. I would have a hard time blaming a pump failure on a bad batch when most of these have been running for twenty plus years.

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Reply #371 – August 24, 2024, 09:42:30 pm

Quote from: Forewheelers – August 24, 2024, 07:59:16 pm

I think I have read this topic front to back and have never seen the possibility of a bad batch of pumps being eluded to. I would have a hard time blaming a pump failure on a bad batch when most of these have been running for twenty plus years.

Right - the issue is that if your pump fails, up until this thread, there were no replacement pump/parts available, even though it's a common across many years of Foretravels.

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Reply #372 – August 24, 2024, 10:42:10 pm

Quote from: Forewheelers – August 24, 2024, 07:59:16 pm

I think I have read this topic front to back and have never seen the possibility of a bad batch of pumps being eluded to. I would have a hard time blaming a pump failure on a bad batch when most of these have been running for twenty plus years.

Design, design, design. Pulley needs to be double sheared to prevent failures. Someone here had an example and that would delete most of the stress causing the fatigue failure. Regardless its a big deal if you can't order a new one

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Reply #373 – August 26, 2024, 09:44:13 am

In gathering my "rescue kit" after receiving the pump from Simone, I got the pulley online and Simone advises this for the NUT I have seen mentioned.

The pump does not come with the nut.

The drawing calls for

.625-18 UNF-2A thread

Thought th info might be useful to others doing the same.
Now to get "the adapter".

Kindest regards,

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Reply #374 – August 26, 2024, 10:08:03 am

There is areosal product Cozmoline that is used in industrial situations to store ship etc machined parts shafts pumps etc Maybe more user friendly than oil It forms a thick wax type coating

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