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Re: House batteries and charger

Reply #75 –
Quote from: T and M Long –
I like the look of the expandable sleeve. Can you explain how it makes it easier to pull wire?  I am all about easier.  Tom
Tom,
It's a woven really slippery vinyl type material that comes lying flat in a roll. You measure the size of your hose or wire and make sure what you order is not any larger. In this case, slightly smaller is better. Say that you have a fuel hose with a fitting on the end. You take the sleeve at the end with one hand and grab it about three inches away with the other and then push toward each other. It expands so you can push it over the fitting at the end and then you use the fingers on both hands to keep pushing it the entire length of the hose or cable. It should be tight on the hose/wire. This will stiffen the hose/wire a little and since it's slippery, you can push it past sharp edges, corners other wires, etc. I also provides abrasion resistance. I pushed an HDMI cable down through the front where the old TV was, went underneath the coach, fed it around obstacles and pushed it back toward the rear of the coach. I reached in and grabbed it where I could see it and just pulled. Since it's slippery, it just fed from the inside floor of the coach around everything without even pulling hard.   

OK, OK, it's hard to imagine exactly how to do it but here is a collection of YouTube videos of how it works: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=installing+braided+expandable+sleeves+over+wires. The second from the top gives a closeup for how it expands. In aircraft, we used the fire resistant type with shrink tubing. You can make looms with wires coming out in different spots, feed the tubing over the wires with shrink tubing and then heat  the shrink tubing. It looks like a factory mass produced the loom. It can take a little planning for size getting the shrink tubing over the larger end fittings on hoses.

For electrical wire, it provides an extra layer of abrasion resistance and you can use different colors for the expandable tubing to color code your installation for easy identification in the future. An ideal example would be a side generator fuel line to the main fuel tank. Instead of the rubber hoses getting hung up trying to push past other rubber hoses, it just slides easily past them and makes the replacement hose an easy job.

35 second video on split sleeving: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T6j_zwmaxuM

Tip: the more you have to expand it to slide it down the wires/hose, the tighter and stiffer the whole thing will be.

Pierce
Pierce and Gaylie Stewart
'93 U300/36 WTBI
Detroit 6V-92TA Jake
1140 watts on the roof
SBFD (ret)

Re: House batteries and charger

Reply #76 –
Quote from: T and M Long –
Steve it sounds like you are considering this project. I will try to answer questions if I can. I'm no expert but I am smarter than I was. Tom
This is one of the items at the top of my list.  We have an original Prosine 2500 and I think 12 year old house gel batteries.  So both are on the watch list.  Appreciate the help in working through this.

Quote from: T and M Long –
My transfer switch for shore power and generator power is near my inverter
My transfer switch is under the bed, along with the second transfer switch, primary and secondary breaker boxes, 2 Bose Lifestyle Speakers, and a Progressive EMS.  As such I have (2) 6/3g running to the bed area, one from shore line and one from the generator.  I was thinking I could move the transfer switch back to the inverter location (like yours) and then repurpose one of those 6/3g lines as the Victron A/C output to breaker box. 

If I understand your setup, you had a 6/3g from the transfer switch to the bed area.  Had you considered moving that existing 6/3g to your Victron output and then a new line from transfer to inverter?

Thanks for your help, I keep rolling around all the options in my head so I have a plan I can follow.
2000 / 36' / U320 / WTFE
WildEBeest / "Striving to put right what once went wrong"

Re: House batteries and charger

Reply #77 –
Pierce the expandable sleeve looks like it would be helpful in different situations. Thanks for sharing.
Tom and Michelle 2004 U270 36WTFS

Re: House batteries and charger

Reply #78 –
Quote from: steve –
 

If I understand your setup, you had a 6/3g from the transfer switch to the bed area.  Had you considered moving that existing 6/3g to your Victron output and then a new line from transfer to
I never really considered it, but it could have worked. I would have had to add a junction box as the wire would not have reached to the inverter.  Would have saved a sizeable sum of money on that SOOW wire. My head was swimming with all the details of putting this project together. As I was trying to figure out the solar aspect as well.  Tom
Tom and Michelle 2004 U270 36WTFS

Re: House batteries and charger

Reply #79 –
Quote from: steve –
My transfer switch is under the bed, along with the second transfer switch, primary and secondary breaker boxes, 2 Bose Lifestyle Speakers, and a Progressive EMS.  As such I have (2) 6/3g running to the bed area, one from shore line and one from the generator.  I was thinking I could move the transfer switch back to the inverter location (like yours) and then repurpose one of those 6/3g lines as the Victron A/C output to breaker box. 
I think it could work. There is  a lot planning to figure this out ( at least for me). I'm guessing you have found room to move the transfer switch.  It does add some complexity to the project. I would try to figure out how difficult it would be to move the transfer switch, and what that would entail first. In your current configuration you would have to run 2 SOOW wires one from the transfer switch to the inverter, then one from the main breaker panel to the inverter.  I would be interested if DSD had/  has the same or similar set up you have.  Tom
Tom and Michelle 2004 U270 36WTFS

Re: House batteries and charger

Reply #80 –
After reading back through what Scott did it seems he has a similar configuration of the transfer switches. He ran 2 SOOW 6/4 from the inverter to under the bed. He might have thoughts on what you are considering ( moving the transfer switch near the inverter).  I so far love the capabilities of the MP2 2x120. Might not be worth all the effort and expense, for most people.  Tom
Tom and Michelle 2004 U270 36WTFS

Re: House batteries and charger

Reply #81 –
Quote from: T and M Long –
I don't have a problem sharing what  I have done.

Is there any way to get the PDF copy of the Victron diagram as opposed to the screenshot image?  I would like to print it but my image quality is a little poor.
George Mann
2002 U320 #5934
2017 Rubicon
2013 BMW GS
Waterford MI

Re: House batteries and charger

Reply #82 –
George I sent you a pm.  Tom
Tom and Michelle 2004 U270 36WTFS