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98 u295 unit 5219 Allison retarder issue-not functioning

8.3 manual p-pump
Allison mh-3000

D12112 Allison code for tps, king throttle with filter wire cut and unit sealed by I think Keith, and unable to clear code, no trans retarder operation, everything else works including cruise
This coach was Dave Cobb coach that many of you will recognize as a mid-entry 36' model
98 U295 36' mid-entry
Home base-Maitland, FL
Florida Chapter-VP

Re: 98 u295 unit 5219 Allison retarder issue-not functioning

Reply #1
Take a look at this post and then see whether or not you have the same bolt

Q about throttle position sensor
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: 98 u295 unit 5219 Allison retarder issue-not functioning

Reply #2
A slightly different problem, but again a sheared bolt on the TPS was the cause

Inland Truck Parts Company, Fargo, ND, for Allison Problem
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: 98 u295 unit 5219 Allison retarder issue-not functioning

Reply #3

Likely 21-12, THROTTLE POSITION SENSOR, FAILED LOW

Allison Transmission Help Files

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Same code as Dave Stevens posts about in the Inland Truck Parts thread
Learn every day, but especially from the experiences of others. It's cheaper!  - John C. Bogle

2000 U320 36' non-slide / WildEBeest Rescue
2003 U320

Re: 98 u295 unit 5219 Allison retarder issue-not functioning

Reply #4
Not following this problem, but wanted to share that King Throttle Control usually has an electronic Allison Throttle Position Sensor built in, where one of the King Control cable plugs connects to the Allison computer to notify Allison were the throttle is positioned. In this case there is no mechanical Allison TPS installed.

Re: 98 u295 unit 5219 Allison retarder issue-not functioning

Reply #5
Yes, if coach is operating with King throttle control no mechanical TPS.

I cleared similar codes by replacing retarder 12 volt relay switch behind driver side lower kick panel.

Might want to contact Brent Delfel @ Advance Diagnostics #501-500-3611 he is the go to guy for King Control.
Doug W.
96 36' U270 CSGI #4946
04 Toyota Tacoma 4x4
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