Replica HWH Plungers Redux

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Reply #50 – September 09, 2018, 03:14:54 pm

I'm bumping this up to the top, because I don't want anyone to miss this opportunity. In case some of our newer members don't fully realize the significance of what is being offered here, I'll link below to the original thread that supplies all the details.

Some day Tom might get tired of providing this service, and a valuable resource will disappear. If you think you might EVER need/want to rebuild your 6-pack manifolds, I suggest you take advantage of this offer. The kits will "keep" just fine until the time you eventually use them.

Brand New Replica HWH Plungers

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Reply #51 – September 09, 2018, 04:29:27 pm

Add me in for 1 pack

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Reply #52 – September 09, 2018, 04:46:34 pm

I am sure most are already aware of this, but, remember, there are TWO 6-packs-- one in front, one in back.

But, cost of installation WILL BE more than 2 6 packs. Probably a case of wine.

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Reply #53 – September 09, 2018, 04:55:10 pm

I would not do it for less tha 6 case's of 1/2 gallons of Black Jack !

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Reply #54 – September 09, 2018, 05:04:11 pm

Payment up on completion !

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Reply #55 – September 09, 2018, 05:33:06 pm

Quote from: Bill Chaplin – September 09, 2018, 04:55:10 pm

I would not do it for less than 6 case's of 1/2 gallons of Black Jack !

Now, THAT is a lot of anti-freeze.

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Reply #56 – September 09, 2018, 06:53:19 pm

Tom
I would like two kits
Thanks
Ron

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Reply #57 – September 09, 2018, 07:27:13 pm

Put me down for 2 please Tom.

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Reply #58 – September 09, 2018, 07:28:10 pm

Quote from: Bill Chaplin – September 09, 2018, 04:55:10 pm

I would not do it for less tha 6 case's of 1/2 gallons of Black Jack !
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Hey Bill, maybe a couple bottles of Pappy Van Winkle 😎

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Reply #59 – September 09, 2018, 07:33:16 pm

Once the coach is blocked.Took me 30 minutes to do the front, probably the same for the back if not less. Have already done one of those.
Faster then one I did in Parker in the dirt, as Bruce Bean drove by and waved....LOL

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Reply #60 – September 09, 2018, 08:58:01 pm

This is a question. Why do these plungers go bad? Shouldn't the "O" rings wear? Or is there a corrosion problem? I am considering ordering 2 sets just in case I have a failure. But as of now my system works as it should and holds pressure. Sure hope I don't jinx myself.

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Reply #61 – September 09, 2018, 09:23:09 pm

The plungers starting leaking past,maybe the springs get's bad, I don't know. The imprint on the rubber, clearing showed it was worn on 2 of mine.
I keep a complete valve with me, because the electric part of the solenoid failed in the middle of the desert last winter, and I couldn't get to ride height. Just happened at at one.
Easy and cheap to do. Preventive maintenance.
Chris

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Reply #62 – September 25, 2018, 09:00:04 pm

I need a pack, need to do rears.
Thanks
Chris

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Reply #63 – September 25, 2018, 09:58:36 pm

I don't have 6 packs, but has anybody added a fine filter upstream of the manifold.

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Reply #64 – September 25, 2018, 10:32:42 pm

Phred I thought about maybe doing that and also adding a sintered brass filter for the exhaust port (to keep mud daubers from plugging it). Maybe someday I'll try it. The only downside might be slower reacting leveling.
But I'm not sure if contamination is causing the solenoid seat problems or just the seat deforming from so many activations.

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Reply #65 – September 25, 2018, 10:57:39 pm

BTW, I used these plungers, and I am not convinced they work. I believe they can't handle the pressure and leak through after a short period of use.. Also, after some use, it appears the little black center has pushed down into the metal hole, and is letting the metal touch the valve inside.
lastly, the black rubber looks really funky after less then a years use.
Jim Mc Neece did a nice test and write up on these, but never finished any later info on the post

Possible HWH Solenoid Replacement Plungers

Has anyone else used there with luck?

Inventories in Stock by Oemsurplus911.com

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Reply #66 – September 26, 2018, 04:27:41 pm

Quote from: gracerace – September 25, 2018, 10:57:39 pm

BTW, I used these plungers, and I am not convinced they work. I believe they can't handle the pressure and leak through after a short period of use.. Also, after some use, it appears the little black center has pushed down into the metal hole, and is letting the metal touch the valve inside.
lastly, the black rubber looks really funky after less then a years use.
Jim Mc Neece did a nice test and write up on these, but never finished any later info on the post

Possible HWH Solenoid Replacement Plungers

Has anyone else used there with luck?

Inventories in Stock by Oemsurplus911.com

I want to clarify, these are not the high quality plungers Tom is selling. I actually have 2 orders in with him. Here is a picture of the one's I used, and don't seem to be working well. Can't say it for a fact they don't work, but I would stick with Toms.
You can see in the picture the center rubber is much smaller in diameter. I couldn't show it in the picture, but the black material has sunk into the metal.
Chris

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Reply #67 – September 26, 2018, 05:43:18 pm

If still available, I would like (2) kits please.

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Reply #68 – September 26, 2018, 09:47:31 pm

I have replaced 3 sets and have found no failures with Tom's sets.

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Reply #69 – September 27, 2018, 11:27:50 am

I've replaced both of my 6 packs with Tom's plungers. Coach stays level for weeks at a time now.

see ya
ken

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Reply #70 – September 27, 2018, 12:18:51 pm

I would also like to order two (2) sets of plunger kits. Thank you.

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Reply #71 – September 27, 2018, 12:43:39 pm

For you folks that wish to order plunger kits, please send an email order to Tom McCloud, owner of Newell Guru Forum. He will get back to you. Another of the really good RV guys.

encantotom@gmail.com

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Reply #72 – September 27, 2018, 01:04:52 pm

Just a bit of background for those that are not aware:

Tom and others found the means to provide these plunger sets. They sourced the plungers, springs and O rings. Once their orders become completed, Tom and his wife take all of the individual parts and package the "sets" in their home and then mail them to us. This has got to be a labor of love.

When we contact Tom for sets he accumulates requests from all requesters and holds them until he reaches a given quantity then orders the plungers. It's not like going to the store and bringing home the products we want. It can take months for Tom and Company to reach enough requests to meets "minimum qty" levels.

Have talked with Tom many times over the years and is a great guy. This is not his business and derives no monies from these transactions. He is providing these sets because ho knows how, has done the ground work and is willing to volunteer his time and experience to help us.

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Reply #73 – November 16, 2018, 10:14:00 am

howdy,

i have some kits left if anyone needs any

tom

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Reply #74 – November 16, 2018, 12:22:26 pm

My take on why they do fail after time is if you have any contaminants in the air system, some will deposit on the seat face and build up with time. This will cause the fine seating of the seal material to allow an air leak. As has been mentioned the material seat has to be good enough to withstand millions of hits by the plunger, so again you have an air leak if it will not stand up to this test. Cleanliness is very important on a rebuild. I have done 3 sets of these 6 packs and they all still are in good working order.
This is not a hard job to do as 9thers have contested, but you do need to mark every tube and wiring and make sure they are returned to original position.
JohnH

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