Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #120 – June 21, 2019, 11:19:58 am Correct It has to screw in tight. FWIW if the engine lites right off cold, the compression is fine . The leak down will not show valve seals or guides. Only combustion pressure values. Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #121 – June 21, 2019, 11:46:16 am Quote from: The Soft Boulders – June 21, 2019, 10:37:33 amIf I was able to get a leak down tester wouldn't I still need to find the correct adapter to fit in the hole for our specific injector? It can't be a universal piece can it? Protech racing is 100% correct. I was thinking that by the time you were done with the leak down test you'd feel better about the internal condition of your engine.And regarding what I said about testing your oil with your hands, the same thing goes for engine smoke. Holding your hands in the smoke near the exhaust pipe and rubbing you palms together then a good deep sniff will tell you much about what is coming out of your engine by the feel and odor.5.9 Mechanical injectors/ea.2004.5-2007 Dodge Ram Bosch 5.9L Cummins Diesel Common Rail Injectors. | eBayElectronic or Common Rail Fuel Injector2004.5-2007 Dodge Ram Bosch 5.9L Cummins Diesel Common Rail Injector | eBay Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #122 – June 21, 2019, 01:42:04 pm I can put you in touch with a quality injection/ HD truck tech , that can come to you and get you up and running . Call me and I'll shoot his #. The transit will be 500 or so . I trust him completely and he works for me when his racing overlaps mine . He has keys to my shop . Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #123 – June 21, 2019, 02:50:23 pm Agree with above but now his next step is to get the injectors back from the mechanic he can't get a hold of and do all the freechecks that he can. Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #124 – June 21, 2019, 02:54:44 pm Quote from: John44 – June 21, 2019, 02:50:23 pmAgree with above but now his next step is to get the injectors back from the mechanic he can't get a hold of and do all the freechecks that he can.I've got time on my hands, AND I'M IRISH (with a horrible temper when crossed) I'll be glad to call Bubba for the OP! Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #125 – June 21, 2019, 03:04:45 pm Put an O' in front of your name and we can blame you for the Chicago fire. Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #126 – June 21, 2019, 03:30:32 pm Quote from: John44 – June 21, 2019, 03:04:45 pmPut an O' in front of your name and we can blame you for the Chicago fire. Add 'Timothy' instead of mine and blame the whole counterculture revolution in the sixties on me! Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #127 – June 21, 2019, 04:34:40 pm Quote from: mike leary – June 21, 2019, 03:30:32 pmAdd 'Timothy' instead of mine and blame the whole counterculture revolution in the sixties on me! Blame? I'd like to take the credit!Pierce Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #128 – June 21, 2019, 04:42:31 pm Quote from: Protech Racing – June 21, 2019, 01:42:04 pm I can put you in touch with a quality injection/ HD truck tech , that can come to you and get you up and running . Call me and I'll shoot his #. The transit will be 500 or so . I trust him completely and he works for me when his racing overlaps mine . He has keys to my shop . Thank you, as soon as we get the injectors back and I have it running again we may do that. I don't want to have anyone show up until we're at least back to where we started. Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #129 – June 21, 2019, 05:31:18 pm Quote from: mike leary – June 21, 2019, 03:30:32 pmAdd 'Timothy' instead of mine and blame the whole counterculture revolution in the sixties on me! Nothing like a little LSD to take the edge off haha. Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #130 – June 21, 2019, 06:12:49 pm Quote from: The Soft Boulders – June 21, 2019, 10:37:33 amIf I was able to get a leak down tester wouldn't I still need to find the correct adapter to fit in the hole for our specific injector? It can't be a universal piece can it? Leak down testers come with a variety of adapters. If you'll find out thread dia and pitch I'll check my kit. If the proper adapter is there I'll be happy to loan my kit to you. Only ask you return it when done. Can't be a bad thing to know condition of rings, valves and seats, head gasket and compression on each cyl. Like others say it won't test valve guides but you can eliminate a lot of variables. (But Protech's reference to a top shelf mechanic is probably the best way to go if you can swing it ) Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #131 – June 21, 2019, 06:23:04 pm Quote from: Chuck Pearson – June 21, 2019, 06:12:49 pmLeak down testers come with a variety of adapters. If you'll find out thread dia and pitch I'll check my kit. If the proper adapter is there I'll be happy to loan my kit to you. Only ask you return it when done. Can't be a bad thing to know condition of rings, valves and seats, head gasket and compression on each cyl. Like others say it won't test valve guides but you can eliminate a lot of variables. (But Protech's reference to a top shelf mechanic is probably the best way to go if you can swing it )Thank you, Chuck! I will see what I can find but I don't believe our injectors have any type of thread on them. The adapter should look like an injector and it will be held in place by the retainers. Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #132 – June 21, 2019, 06:24:22 pm Like this. I'm finding cummins pt # 3164840 Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #133 – June 21, 2019, 07:23:58 pm Diesel Adapter M17 Injector - Cummins Case C SeriesFound this but the problem is that I don't know what injectors we have. This is for the Bosch M17 injector but that might not be what we need. Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #134 – June 21, 2019, 07:31:12 pm The compression tester with all the adapters posted earlier can probably be used with the leak down tester. Several of the adapters were for Cummins. You could just pull the compression quick connect and snap on the leak down quick connect and do both at almost the same time.Did you ever check your delivery pressure from the secondary filter to the injection pump? Probably one of the first things to do.Easy gauge installation with only a "T" needed. This eliminates low fuel pressure possibilities. Need remote gauge or camera for full load readings. This is my idle pressure.Pierce Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #135 – June 21, 2019, 08:15:51 pm Quote from: Pierce & Gaylie Stewart – June 21, 2019, 07:31:12 pmDid you ever check your delivery pressure from the secondary filter to the injection pump? Probably one of the first things to do.Easy gauge installation with only a "T" needed. This eliminates low fuel pressure possibilities. Need remote gauge or camera for full load readings. This is my idle pressure.The mechanic did check the fuel pressure and said it was good but the engine wasn't under load. Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #136 – June 24, 2019, 11:26:32 pm Called the mechanic today. No answer. so I drive to his shop and spoke with him. He said he'd been in PA for training since Wednesday and that he'd have them tested and let me know tonight. No call. Have a feeling that tomorrow won't produce a call either. Hopefully we're wrong. Found the problem with the generator, the radiator is plugged full of junk. It was getting too hot, overflowing coolant everywhere and shutting itself off. And also the exhaust is broken in half at the manifold and filling the compartment and probably the cabin with exhaust. We made some room on the engine by removing the two useless ac compressors that were sitting in the way of everything. There was no refrigerant in the system and it was all filled with rust, and one of the lines were already broken so we just cut the other ones and got it all out of the way. We're supposed to be in PA this weekend to see family but I don't think that's going to happen. I don't know if this is typical of coach ownership or full-timing but this has been an insane past 6 months. I'm addicted though. There's nothing like a good old fashioned trial-by-fire haha! Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #137 – June 25, 2019, 04:11:24 am Others will chime in but I have a 96 with the same engine and only have 1 AC compressor,how is yours set up with 2? Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #138 – June 25, 2019, 09:15:05 am I was wrong, thankfully. The mechanic called this morning and said all of our injectors tested good and that he'd be down this afternoon to get it all back together. He is going to bring his timing kit and double check the timing on the injection pump. Hopefully we'll have a better idea by tonight what's going on. Quote Selected
Re: Lots of White Smoke Reply #139 – June 25, 2019, 09:20:26 am Quote from: John44 – June 25, 2019, 04:11:24 amOthers will chime in but I have a 96 with the same engine and only have 1 AC compressor,how is yours set up with 2?One of the compressors circulates (or did) the refrigerant in the basement unit. The system was designed so that the basement ac could be operated via the engine compressor and the inverter could power the fans. That way the generator was not required to operate the ac while driving. The lines to the basement unit were disconnected years ago. Quote Selected