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Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #75
I am pretty sure the taper stays put and that the puller seats on the notch on each side of the arm. I will find out for sure tomorrow... I now have the puller in my hands! Man, that was quick. I am feeling very optimistic at this point. Light at the end of the tunnel! Thanks Lon! ^.^d
Don
Does the taper part next to the pitman arm come off with pitman arm or does my puller need  to miss the taper
Thanks
Chris
Had noticed a small amount of oil on gear box last week.  Went on a short weekend trip put coach back in shed went out today and found oil on floor from leaking gear box so pre planning has turned into got to fix it!!!
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Don & Tys
1999 U270 3602 WTFE #5402
Xtreme Stage 1 w/Headlight, Step Conversion, etc.
2009 Honda Fit Sport with Navi
Freedom is NOT "just another word for nothing left to lose"... with apologies to Kris Kristofferson

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #76
That taper piece is rubber. We have been able to push it out of the way but it has a tendency to fall apart due to age. Replacements are available.

Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #77
When they overhaul the box do they include one of these or is that extra that you need to ask for?
Chris
1999 U 320 DGFE
Build Number 5523
Chris & Elka Lang
In the field, Lonoke AR

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #78
When they overhaul the box do they include one of these or is that extra that you need to ask for?

The last one that I helped with from RH the boot that they have in stock was the short one. The boots on our coaches are the long ones. We used the short one as that is what we had and it worked just fine. It was included IIRC.

Mike
Pamela & Mike 97 U 320

"It's not what happens to you, but how you react to it that matters."

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #79
The person called me that was down stream of one of them and I didn't want to bogart it as I won't do mine until Dec. He was either going to keep it until someone else needed it or send it back where he borrowed it from.

"bogart it"!....LOL

 8)
Chris and Tammy White  CDA Idaho
Previous owners 1997 U295 36' 3126 Cat 300 HP Build # 4998
Former Foretravel tech & RVIA certified tech
Former owner Custom Satellite home/RV satellites 
Former owner Vans LTD  van conversions
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Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #80
He sent it back to the owner. Haven't been able to contact him yet.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #81
Justin, it is apparent that their management must have had a meeting sometime after June when yours was done and decided that "one in the hand is worth two in the bush" so to speak. In this case, I would disagree with their decision. Sure they bought two of their cores from Tim F., but once they decided they could get a $300 premium for having quick shipping stock, the so called forum cores were just two that they had acquired. Business decisions don't often favor the customer... that's okay. I am alright with the $496 rebuild/reseal price, I just won't have quite warm fuzzy feeling I might have felt toward Redhead. If they do me right, I will still recommend them, just not quite as enthusiastically.
Don
Don
This past June the charge was $495. for the unit on their shelf plus the $500. core charge that was refunded when Redhead received my old unit. Shipping was $100. including a return shipping label. total charge was right at $1100. and $500 was refunded a few days later when they received the core in good repairable condition. Not sure why such and increase in price...... convenience fee?  :o

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Don & Tys
1999 U270 3602 WTFE #5402
Xtreme Stage 1 w/Headlight, Step Conversion, etc.
2009 Honda Fit Sport with Navi
Freedom is NOT "just another word for nothing left to lose"... with apologies to Kris Kristofferson

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #82
Well dang, I looked over the Shepherd info you posted, (thanks for that) and determined that a re-seal would be a piece a cake for you.  Was looking forward to the report.  Removing unit I expect is most definitely not cake.

So, is it a given that Redhead does the full rebuild/blueprint balls regardless of condition of gear when they get your core?  They are going to rebuild yours, right, as opposed to shipping one of their prebuilt units? 
"Not so  long ago we were a nation of risk takers, riding five million pounds of  thrust straight into space."  Joe Gresh
Chuck Pearson
1996 U295
2018 Can Am X3 TurboRS

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #83
He sent it back to the owner. Haven't been able to contact him yet.
Eric  is who it was sent back to as I have heard.. I sent him a PM to get it straight but He has either not seen the alert or has decided not to reply.. Kinda sucks as I took the time to put one together for him in a rush as he was stuck and we cant get a response at to where the old one is or not.. I have been told many times in my life... "No Good Deed Goes Unpunished"

So I will make another one and send it to craneman... I guess making a couple extras for other in need has created an opportunity for others to use as a paper weight.. >:(

Will mail the new one out fri to Craneman... Anyone else needs one I am making another EXTRA for back up...

Guess some of the members dont understand that this piece is for sale for around $300.. deep pockets for a 15 min use..



Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #86
The one Dave sends me will be available as soon as I park the coach under the canopy. Won't need it to re-install the box. I will make a new post in Tech Talk with the title "Sheppard pitman arm puller made by David S." when I am finished with it. Maybe this one will leave tracks where it is at.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #87
Eric is now sending me the puller David made for him. Another mystery solved
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #88
I need some guidance,  I built a pitman arm puller made a plug to cover the threads and put lots of torque on puller — it won't budge. Suggestions appreciated
Chris
1999 U 320 DGFE
Build Number 5523
Chris & Elka Lang
In the field, Lonoke AR

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #89
Tapered splines are the worst. You probably could get the puller as tight as you can and whack the arm on the side. The same way tie rod ends and auto control arms are loosened. Don't bother hitting the end of the bolt on the puller as hitting the side of the arm is much more effective.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #90
Spray , heatgun. Rapp on side.  Heatgun,spray, hit,

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #91
 First thing I would do is add some oil to try to reduce as much friction as possible to make sure you're actually getting as much torque as you believe I've always had good results by going to the steering wheel and just rocking it back-and-forth with the wheels on the ground just to allow the Pitman arm to load up just slightly
John Patrick
2002 U270

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #92
Are you using the original bolt? Remove the bolt and install the puller , use the original bolt to pull the pitman arm off.. massive amount of torque to pop loose.. once it breaks loose it comes off easy

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #93
Are you using the original bolt? Remove the bolt and install the puller , use the original bolt to pull the pitman arm off.. massive amount of torque to pop loose.. once it breaks loose it comes off easy
He's not using a puller like you make. He is pushing in the center with the puller. Not pushing outward with the Sheppard type puller.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #94
I try to avoid pushing in the naked shaft.
 The center bolt is a much better idea imho.

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #95
The puller worked great! The hardest part was just breaking loose the nut. My Milwaukee ½" impact will break loose the lug nuts torqued to 450 ft.lbs. but struggled to bust the retaining nut loose... until I put a fresh 5ah battery in. It is a box at the ups store... Pretty worn out today.... time to take it easy!
Don
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Don & Tys
1999 U270 3602 WTFE #5402
Xtreme Stage 1 w/Headlight, Step Conversion, etc.
2009 Honda Fit Sport with Navi
Freedom is NOT "just another word for nothing left to lose"... with apologies to Kris Kristofferson

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #96
I try to avoid pushing in the naked shaft.
 The center bolt is a much better idea imho.
I agree, not seeing what Chris built I was thinking of a bolt with a nut, screwed into the shaft and using the nut to push back out on a puller. Opposite of a balancer installer.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #97
Chuck, the retaining nut I am referring to is on the end of the sector shaft. The pitman arm is still attached on the drag link end. I supported the drag link and pitman arm with a ratchet strap looped around the rectangular tubing support assembly. I marked the end of the sector shaft with a Dremel so I can center the shaft and line up the pitman arm. I will post pictures after we get back from dropping it off at the UPS store. The clerk there said he couldn't tell me what, if anything it is insured for. I think I felt separation anxiety when dropping it off. BTW, it weighed in at 92.3 lbs.
Don
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Don & Tys
1999 U270 3602 WTFE #5402
Xtreme Stage 1 w/Headlight, Step Conversion, etc.
2009 Honda Fit Sport with Navi
Freedom is NOT "just another word for nothing left to lose"... with apologies to Kris Kristofferson

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #98
Chris's picture shows female threads, I will look at my coach to see what you are referring to.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean

Re: Bit by the Sheppard M100 bug

Reply #99
Just looked at my coach, the spanner nut must be what you refer to.
1999 40 ft. U-320 wtfe build 5563 Chuck & Lynda's "Rollin' Inn"  2030 watts solar
prev. mh's 71 GMC 5 yrs. 73 Pace Setter 1 yr. 78 Vogue 5 yrs 81 FTX 40ft all electric 18 yrs. 1996 Monaco Signature 3 yrs.
2014 Grand Cherokee Overland
Dream as if you will live forever. Live as if you will die today.  James Dean