Hydraulic pump Failed **ALL FORETRAVEL OWNERS SHOULD READ**

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Reply #300 – January 19, 2024, 01:45:29 pm

Quote from: mkc1962 – January 15, 2024, 11:20:13 am

Crane,

I have not had the time to go back and look exactly whom stated it, But there was a response from someone early on that they identified the 41188 as their pump on their 320....

I just scanned the entire topic and don't see a post indicating that one coach. A couple of people asking, but none stating their U320 has a 41188.

domotang has it on a 2008 Nimbus, which would also be an ISL.

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Reply #301 – January 19, 2024, 02:39:57 pm

To whom it may concern:

FTRoadtrip has officially ordered a replacement pump which I will happily keep on the shelf should the need arise.

-FT

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Reply #302 – January 19, 2024, 03:14:52 pm

Quote from: Michelle – January 19, 2024, 01:45:29 pm

I just scanned the entire topic and don't see a post indicating that one coach. A couple of people asking, but none stating their U320 has a 41188.

domotang has it on a 2008 Nimbus, which would also be an ISL.

Maybe they removed it, but there was a post about such at one time, and the minute I saw it I updated the list info.. I will update my list (IF I CAN) as I dont want to give any false info.

It appears I can no longer edit that one.....Michelle, IF Possible, please remove the 320 from the ( ) adjacent to the 41188....Post # 60

But Each still needs to 100% check their own numbers, not rely on others to determine what is on their coaches.

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Reply #303 – January 19, 2024, 03:47:16 pm

Quote from: mkc1962 – January 19, 2024, 03:14:52 pm

Maybe they removed it, but there was a post about such at one time, and the minute I saw it I updated the list info.. I will update my list (IF I CAN) as I dont want to give any false info.

It appears I can no longer edit that one.....Michelle, IF Possible, please remove the 320 from the ( ) adjacent to the 41188....Post # 60

But Each still needs to 100% check their own numbers, not rely on others to determine what is on their coaches.

I edited that post to emphasize the need to check the actual part if you have a U320.

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Reply #304 – January 19, 2024, 09:10:04 pm

Lt403 - I think I can just see some numbers in the first picture (near the top and parallel with that edge) but I can't read them. Might be worth a much closer look. They seem to be located where mine were punch on the housing.

Rich

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Reply #305 – January 19, 2024, 10:21:18 pm

Some of the numbers are not well punched in, there seems not to be any location on the housing where the number was constantly placed. In the freezing cold under the coach I cleaned the pump until it looked like new and I still could not find the actual pump number, other numbers yes, but no help!
Three weeks later I have warmed up, wiped the dog slobber out of my ear, washed my Carhartts, the two cuts on my hand are disappearing and I am hoping that Foretravel are right when they say I have a 41188 pump which is deposit paid and on order. If it's the wrong pump I may be screwed, but on the bright side that would mean replacement pumps are not available and I will be able to sell the spare pump on eBay for a profit and have enough to pay for a wrecker to tow the coach back to my side yard where it could become a high end air B&B!

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Reply #306 – January 19, 2024, 10:38:35 pm

Thanks Rich,
I saw those numbers , don't know if they mean anything. I had to stop looking for numbers on the pump and start working on the linkage for my electric steps that broke yesterday.
Will get back under the coach to look at the pump again tomorrow.

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Reply #307 – January 20, 2024, 12:09:04 am

Irish, your pump is a 41188, same as my 99 295. All the ISC 350s have the same pump, as well as the 8.3s in the 95-98 270/295s

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Reply #308 – January 20, 2024, 01:18:23 am

Found mine on a tag, 41078. Couldn't read it even using a mirror and flashlight so I removed it and put it in a safe place.
Will be calling QCC Monday.

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Reply #309 – January 20, 2024, 11:01:55 am

Folks,

I honestly believe, due to this problem and subsequent resolution for the moment, I have not received so many emails and phone calls in all my life. But that is perfectly OK, Ive learned a lot more about the technical aspects of our coach, and don't mind at all sharing what Ive learned. Making new freinds in life is also never a bad thing. Maybe 1 day we get to meet.

I have had one gentleman that has recently contacted me, showing thanks for all I have done but at the same time also working on a possible solution/improvement to the system. Not just talking about it, the way so many have done, but actually doing something. There are many opinions on what actually causes these tapered shafts to occasionally break. I think most technically minded individuals would agree that being tapered (weakest of all shafts designs) as well as lateral loading are probably key components to eventual failure. Here is a Prototype of an idea to deal with lateral loading that 1 member has done. He has done so on his personal 2001 U295. So far has run it 600 miles, but is about to head out on about a 3200 mile trip, then take it apart for inspection. Personally I think he has a pretty slick idea that can be seen as an improvement to the system. I don't think he really wants to produce these for sale as he is retired. But he does plan to share all of his design specs after proving all aspects of success. He has asked me to post his pictures in my thread, as well as provide a contact number if anyone is interested in pursuing the approach.

Eventually these pumps will become extinct again. We all know through my research, NOBODY of an official Hydraulic supplier or machine shop wants to seem to help with any sort of re-engineering of the pump unit itself. Though lots or owners have suggested there has to be a way to re-engineer, NONE have come forward with any ideas or suggestions. To create a possible solution that will let what we have, stand a chance of lasting much longer, I see this as at least a step in the right direction.

If interested in contacting this person. 253-350-8695

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Reply #310 – January 20, 2024, 12:22:51 pm

That's impressive

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Reply #311 – January 20, 2024, 01:41:52 pm

Cleaned and crawled all over under the coach in the single digit temps. Could only find the housing number (40998)ordered the 41078 but trying to be 100% sure. Going to give a call to Foretravel Monday and see if they can tell me. Hopefully helping others as well with the U320 questions.

EDIT
Foretravel parts confirmed that I have 41078 as well

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Reply #312 – January 21, 2024, 08:20:26 pm

Quote from: mkc1962 – January 20, 2024, 11:01:55 am

Nice! I like that so much better as it appears in the pictures.

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Reply #313 – January 22, 2024, 01:02:22 pm

Here are the pics I was able to get after a better cleaning.
Unable to read the actual label, it's in a bad spot and there's not enough room for a better pic.

Got my inspection camera 41078 is on the plate.

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Reply #314 – January 22, 2024, 01:08:09 pm

Frank, that label is stuck on with some type of glue. Yours is the same place as mine is and I removed mine with a hand scraper. My pump is the 41078 as yours should be.
Just placed my order with Simone.

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Reply #315 – January 22, 2024, 03:17:28 pm

The few pics I have seen of those data plates, the bottom number was the pump number. The 40998 that you show as a stamping is only the number for the rear housing that the 10 pumps all share

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Reply #316 – January 22, 2024, 04:05:16 pm

Here's a photo of my ID plate. Date code says 02K and below that is 41078

Oops, gotta figure out how to turn the photo, sorry

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Reply #317 – April 04, 2024, 11:38:31 pm

Update to all that have a pump on order with QCC.

I got in touch with Simone at Qcc in the past few days. All of the parts for the 41188 and others that share similar parts should be in stock within the next week or two. They are expecting to have pumps going out to customers sometimes after the 21st of this month.

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Reply #318 – May 05, 2024, 12:44:43 pm

Quote from: mkc1962 – April 04, 2024, 11:38:31 pm

Update to all that have a pump on order with QCC.

I got in touch with Simone at Qcc in the past few days. All of the parts for the 41188 and others that share similar parts should be in stock within the next week or two. They are expecting to have pumps going out to customers sometimes after the 21st of this month.

Has anyone received a pump?

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Reply #319 – May 05, 2024, 01:27:40 pm

I was about to ask the same question as we are leaving Wed. for four to six weeks.

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Reply #320 – May 05, 2024, 03:24:58 pm

I had a message from Simone last week verifying my shipping address. The message said that my pump was shipping this coming Monday 5/6. I am going to call her tomorrow...

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Reply #321 – May 06, 2024, 12:12:52 am

I have emailed here twice in the past 2 weeks as she stated they SHOULD be ready for shipment by 4/21 that has come and gone. Last reply last week was that the shafts did not come in as early as they were told they would and she needed to get with scheduling again to confirm production run.

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Reply #322 – May 06, 2024, 10:04:46 am

So, to all....i just got off the phone with Simone. The pumps are ready to ship to those that preordered. I needed to confirm my shipping address with her and the final charge amount. Mine is shipping out today via UPS. The pumps have been tested to make sure they perform, as most will be just hanging on to them in the box, hoping to never actually have to use them. I asked the question knowing this is the case for me presently. She said she was in the process of contacting folks this week to verify shipping and final payments. I thanked her for all her hard work in this endeavor. She sounds like a very nice lady...anyway, thanks again to all involved in this...

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Reply #323 – May 06, 2024, 11:08:21 am

I also just called Simone. To personally wanted to let her know I really appreciated the way she handled my first late sunday night call, the following day with me on the shaft at that time, as well as the end result for all of us.

She is partly on vacation today.

She has asked that there is no need for others to call as she has a rather large list of folks she plans to get in contact with starting this morning. IF you were one of those people that contacted her in the past and put down a deposit, you WILL be contacted about your order. Somewhere around 30-40 pumps were sold to individuals like us during this limited production offering, mainly the 41188 and 41078.

She has suggested to upper management that they do continue to order the rear housing (Common to the 10 that were discontinued), as all that were ordered have been used up, and due to this interest she has no doubt others will sell periodically moving forward. The rear housings are cast in England at a minimum order number and lead time is several months.

Each persons final price will be different based on YOUR address/shipping. Price moving forward = Unknown

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Reply #324 – May 06, 2024, 05:07:06 pm

Crawled underneath my 07 Nimbus (ISM 500) yesterday - after cleaning off a bunch of greasy dirt, I wasn't able to find 41188, but I did find 40988 stamped on the large flat surface. I looked near the bolts where others have shown stamps - none to be found.

Called FT, they said that I have the 41188 (without asking what build number). There also doesn't seem to be a plan to stock any units at FOT. I reached out to Simone to see if all units in the first batch have been spoken for.

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Newbie question - is this at all related to the PTO issue that Brad M uncovered about 9 yrs ago? Ungreased splines, affected 80 coaches in the 2007-2010 years? FT couldn't (wouldn't?) tell me if mine had been addressed and recommended I contact previous owners or review service receipts.

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